A Qeustion For The Twu
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Thats no excuse, they seem to be in court nearly every day.Ray said:
I hear that retrees now have a lawsuit against the International for one of their insurance scams.
Apparently they were selling disability insurance to retirees that would cover lost wages if they were disabled. Well if someone is retired they dont collect wages, therefore if they are disabled they will not lose wages.
I'll bet that the commissions paid by the Insurance company surpass Sonny Halls salary from the TWU.
They probably even surpass the kickback they recieve from the company.
The TWU negotiates away our benifits then tries to sell us insurance to cover what we lost. Is this organization really looking out for their members or simply using us a customer base for their insurance scams?
Hey Bob, since you are so good at bringing us information maybe you can explain what is happening with amfa's UAL retirees!!!!! Don't keep us waiting now!! We all want to hear your knowldege and expertise on this subject!! You support amfa so certainly you must know something about what is going on, huh??!!
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Basically UAL, 15 years afterwards, is getting what the TWU gave to AA. We have been paying for our retiree health benifits for 15 years. Remember "Prefunding", its still being taken out. Once again the TWU is the leader in concessions!twuer said:
Still no answers on the $3.1 million?
By the way how come Bobby Gless was not listed on the TWUs LM-2?
I heard it through the grapevine that Hubert Snead and Rojer Taust were saying that they never should have brought him in to the International. Why would they say that?
Once again I've addressed your questions. When are you going to address mine?
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What, still no answers from the TWU?
Come on now Bobby Gless and the rest of you TWU crooks, we know that you monitor these boards, you testified to it. You can always sneak behind one of your aliases.
Why is there no information on Gless on the LM-2?
Where is all that $3.1 million going?
How is it that Bobby and Gary reportedly claim that they took pay cuts? Apparently the rest of the TWU International got raises last year.
Why was Bobby paying dues through company payroll long after he became a full time International employee?
Why was Bobby still included on the JFK headcount until a few weeks after I started this thread?
Are, or were, TWU officials recieving two paychecks, one from the TWU and one from the company?
These are not overly complex, or unreasonable questions. We know that you are aware of these questions but yet you fail to respond. Maybe it will come out in the depositions next month.
Come on now Bobby Gless and the rest of you TWU crooks, we know that you monitor these boards, you testified to it. You can always sneak behind one of your aliases.
Why is there no information on Gless on the LM-2?
Where is all that $3.1 million going?
How is it that Bobby and Gary reportedly claim that they took pay cuts? Apparently the rest of the TWU International got raises last year.
Why was Bobby paying dues through company payroll long after he became a full time International employee?
Why was Bobby still included on the JFK headcount until a few weeks after I started this thread?
Are, or were, TWU officials recieving two paychecks, one from the TWU and one from the company?
These are not overly complex, or unreasonable questions. We know that you are aware of these questions but yet you fail to respond. Maybe it will come out in the depositions next month.
Oh Bob, you're still upset that you don't get any more money form the TWU so you have to start some story about crooks and thieves. That's exactly how you have scared all those folks up there in NY in believing your crap about how good amfa is. One big amfa vs the TWU story (Owens version - becseu everyone else's version is BS!!!!!)). You tell it long enough they start to believe it. You and Schaulk have filled their heads with more BS it's a wonder their heads don't explode. And what is sad is that they believe you and don't take the time to research anything on there own to find out the truth for themselves. You've got yourself quite the "bubble" up there don't you??? Your probelms are your own, noone cares about the guys in NY, poor us, it sucks to be in NY!!!! Cry me a river Bob!! Then grow some will you??!!Bob Owens said:
And as far as Gless' money situation. . . . I mentioned my theory of that under another topic somewhere just recently. I think he is working for free. What a guy, wouldn't you say?!!!!!!!
Oh and the $3.1 mil. . .SHHHHHH. . . . I've got it hidden in a bank in Switzerland. But don't tell anyone okay??!!
(Just another one of Bob's made up theories. . . still waiting on that solid proof Bob!!)
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Hey Twuer how brown and smelly does it have to be for you to realize it’s a turd.? Just anscer the Question or say it appears your right Bob. By the way how much AA stock does Randy McDonald own and when did he buy it? How much did Randy make in 2003? Your getting way behind twuer. I hope you know a little about what Randy is up to he will be the 514 pres another 3 years even when the Mechanics vote the twu out. These people you support sure make it hard on you don't they? Surely you can see how bad all this looks for the twu. They owe us the truth. If they can’t give us that much we will have to fire them.
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I have seen several LM2 forms from both the TWU and AMFA. Not having in my possession a degree in accounting I will keep my assumptions to myself.I rest assured knowing that organizations such as AMFA and the TWU both have retained accountants that are able.
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.So nightwatch your saying you don't know and it appears Bob is right. That was the first real answer I have heard from a twu supporter almost. :unsure:
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What I stated stands, I do not know. Nor do I care about Robert Gless and his attained wages, nor do I particularly care about how the TWU reports his wages. He will make the same annual amount no matter what column it occupies. I have met Mr. Gless and see him as an able representative. I also believe that many AMFA supporters saw him as "able" when he supported AMFA. I understand your animosity but , in the same breathe, I believe a man has the right to openly admit he has changed his agenda.amt for amfa said:
Mr. Gless and ME Johnson are continually lambasted in this forum for their integrity. They had the backbone to admit, without covert activity, that they had changed their "party". I respect both of those individuals. Yet the AMFA supporters embrace Mr. Owens and Mr. Schalk, they undertook the same agenda but went about it without the integrity. Does anyone understand my quagmire here?
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YES, I do.Nightwatch said:
Your qaugmire is that you refuse to hold the TWU to the same standards you wish to hold AMFA.
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Oh Bob, you're still upset that you don't get any more money form the TWU so you have to start some story about crooks and thieves. That's exactly how you have scared all those folks up there in NY in believing your crap about how good amfa is. One big amfa vs the TWU story (Owens version - becseu everyone else's version is BS!!!!!)). You tell it long enough they start to believe it. You and Schaulk have filled their heads with more BS it's a wonder their heads don't explode. And what is sad is that they believe you and don't take the time to research anything on there own to find out the truth for themselves. You've got yourself quite the "bubble" up there don't you??? Your probelms are your own, noone cares about the guys in NY, poor us, it sucks to be in NY!!!! Cry me a river Bob!! Then grow some will you??!!
A little off topic here arent you? Sounds like you are the one who is upset here. Why not just answer the question?If you did the research then show us what you found. Where does the $3.1 million go? Why isnt Gless on the LM-2? Why does the company pay the Presidents 40 hour paycheck without reimbursement from the Union, or was our contract reimbursement?
And as far as Gless' money situation. . . . I mentioned my theory of that under another topic somewhere just recently. I think he is working for free. What a guy, wouldn't you say?!!!!!!!
I'd say that you are a true TWUer if you would believe that. And what research did you use to come to that conclusion?
Oh and the $3.1 mil. . .SHHHHHH. . . . I've got it hidden in a bank in Switzerland. But don't tell anyone okay??!!
(Just another one of Bob's made up theories. . . still waiting on that solid proof Bob!!)
The proof? I gave it to you but you refuse to see it. It was right there on the company's list of concessions they would seek. I know, you claim those numbers were "theoretical, were all those numbers "theoretical"? Do you mean to say that we gave real concesions for the next five years on numbers that were only theoretical? Are you denying that the company pays TWU officials for UB? Are you denying that Presidents collect a 40 hour paycheck without reporting to work at AA? Are you denying that Bobby Gless was still listed on the headcount of JFK long after he became an International rep? That Bobby Gless's dues were paid through AA payroll deduction and that the TWU did not list Bobbys pay from the TWU, as required by law, on the LM-2? You seem to have a problem, I think its called "denial". What exactly would you like to see as far as "proof"?
A little off topic here arent you? Sounds like you are the one who is upset here. Why not just answer the question?If you did the research then show us what you found. Where does the $3.1 million go? Why isnt Gless on the LM-2? Why does the company pay the Presidents 40 hour paycheck without reimbursement from the Union, or was our contract reimbursement?
And as far as Gless' money situation. . . . I mentioned my theory of that under another topic somewhere just recently. I think he is working for free. What a guy, wouldn't you say?!!!!!!!
I'd say that you are a true TWUer if you would believe that. And what research did you use to come to that conclusion?
Oh and the $3.1 mil. . .SHHHHHH. . . . I've got it hidden in a bank in Switzerland. But don't tell anyone okay??!!
(Just another one of Bob's made up theories. . . still waiting on that solid proof Bob!!)
The proof? I gave it to you but you refuse to see it. It was right there on the company's list of concessions they would seek. I know, you claim those numbers were "theoretical, were all those numbers "theoretical"? Do you mean to say that we gave real concesions for the next five years on numbers that were only theoretical? Are you denying that the company pays TWU officials for UB? Are you denying that Presidents collect a 40 hour paycheck without reporting to work at AA? Are you denying that Bobby Gless was still listed on the headcount of JFK long after he became an International rep? That Bobby Gless's dues were paid through AA payroll deduction and that the TWU did not list Bobbys pay from the TWU, as required by law, on the LM-2? You seem to have a problem, I think its called "denial". What exactly would you like to see as far as "proof"?
