2015 AMT Discussion

Mel Brooks as Doug Parker. TWU played by woman picking flowers!!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StJS51d1Fzg
 





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bigjets said:
Funny how the union shops are trying to keep up with the non-union shop. Here we are with the largest company, largest union and we are the lowest paid.

Time for the association and the afl-cio to step up!!!!!!!!!

They should accomplish more then collecting dues and making promises they can't keep, I e AFW MCI, and all the other jobs and pay we have lost through the years.
Your dreaming again, the ass and the afl isnt going to do anything except collect their dues.
 
Birdman said:
What does AA passenger service agents have to do with pausing IBT's technician negotiations??
I have no clue just posting an update.  UAL made it sound like AA mechanics came to a TA, when we all know it was not.
 
Overspeed said:
Sounds like IBT and UA potential TA was DL rates + ??? (AA CWA offer DL incl 14.5% plus 3%) The Association stall is strategic! They are waiting for IBT UA to settle and pass a TA then we will go for UA+??? which will be higher than DL+3%.
 
The Association is brilliant!!! Just brilliant!!! 
So you are willing to settle for the NEW Delta plus 3%?  Really?? Everyone else is still demanding the Delta plus 7% and they should. If your a$$ had any balls they will stick to the Delta plus 7% and/or United plus 7% just as Parker promised.  I honestly think if the membership holds out for it they will get it.  Matter fact if you guys are givin the +7 over whoever, it was not the doing of this a$$, it was merely agreed by the co long time ago and is what they are giving to all groups freely NOT what the unions are nego for their members, but this a$$ will indeed brag all day long that they got you guys that when in fact it is the co freely offering it up.  Now we all see where you stand.  All the others on here will stand for the +7% NOT the +3%.  Your so lame...
 
Hey guys Im a Continental-UA line mech and I have a question please. What are the amendable dates on the AA and Usair mechs contracts that are currently in effect? Thanks 
 
D7571987 said:
Hey guys Im a Continental-UA line mech and I have a question please. What are the amendable dates on the AA and Usair mechs contracts that are currently in effect? Thanks
American Airlines
ARTICLE 47 DURATION OF AGREEMENT
THIS AGREEMENT will become effective as of September 12, 2012 and will continue in full force and effect until and including September 12, 2018 and will renew itself until each succeeding September 12 thereafter, except that written notice of intended change may be served in accordance with Section 6, Title I, of the Railway Labor Act, as amended, by either party no earlier than sixty (60) calendar days on or after September 12, 2016 [24 months prior to amendable date]

Not sure about other half of Ass.
 
Since all of the negotiations threads are locked(why?), I'll have to post this here. 
   The word from a 591 official is that the TWU/IAM reconciliation is essentially done, with crew chief seniority  being the only unresolved topic. They want to shelve the seniority issue until negotiations to see what the company has in mind, and then decide if its worth the fight. Apparently Jim Weel, the company's chief negotiator, has said he wanted to get the agents contract out of the way until he deals with M&E. So, the company is ready to talk, the negotiating committee is ready to talk, whats the holdup? 
 
  The IAM leadership has been quoted as saying they are happy, they have just gotten a raise, and there is no hurry in getting a deal done fast. Whether this is true or not, what is true is that the IAM is in control of the Ass for the first 2 yrs, and they decide when its time to talk with the company. I think we need to get the word out to our IAM brethren, and demand some answers as to why we aren't at the negotiating table.
 
Tater Salad said:
 
  what is true is that the IAM is in control of the Ass for the first 2 yrs,
If this doesn't generate enough cards for an election among the majority of AA mechanics nothing will.
 
Unless you upset the guys in Tulsa and Title II, we will never get enough cards. Don't forget the guys over on the USAIR side. How do they feel about the Association?
 
Birdman said:
What does AA passenger service agents have to do with pausing IBT's technician negotiations??
When you have a union based on socialism where the entire goal is to maintain equality with no regard for skill then you end up with this situation of the Passenger Service Agents  being a factor around every members issues.
 
D7571987 said:
Hey guys Im a Continental-UA line mech and I have a question please. What are the amendable dates on the AA and Usair mechs contracts that are currently in effect? Thanks 
USAirways:
 
Effective July 18, 2014
 
In effect until July 18, 2017.
 
1AA said:
Unless you upset the guys in Tulsa and Title II, we will never get enough cards. Don't forget the guys over on the USAIR side. How do they feel about the Association?
What's an Association?  You mean to tell me you guys aren't IAM yet?  That's basically how we feel.  Most feel it really doesn't affect us.
 
Tater Salad said:
Since all of the negotiations threads are locked(why?), I'll have to post this here. 
   The word from a 591 official is that the TWU/IAM reconciliation is essentially done, with crew chief seniority  being the only unresolved topic. They want to shelve the seniority issue until negotiations to see what the company has in mind, and then decide if its worth the fight. Apparently Jim Weel, the company's chief negotiator, has said he wanted to get the agents contract out of the way until he deals with M&E. So, the company is ready to talk, the negotiating committee is ready to talk, whats the holdup? 
 
  The IAM leadership has been quoted as saying they are happy, they have just gotten a raise, and there is no hurry in getting a deal done fast. Whether this is true or not, what is true is that the IAM is in control of the Ass for the first 2 yrs, and they decide when its time to talk with the company. I think we need to get the word out to our IAM brethren, and demand some answers as to why we aren't at the negotiating table.
I have a feeling from past history,  it'll be a long, long time.  Just relax.  "Just be happy you have a job."
 
And when any information comes, it'll come in the form of a bullet point list, and you'll be given one week to vote yes on it.
 
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