Overspeed said:
700UW,
AA dropping in-house overhaul such as TAESL is not "trimming the fat." It is that LAA is now completeting the outsourcing of jobs that started under the IAM at UA and US and other unions in the industry to lower wage and foreign countries. The TWU held the line as long as they could. Calling highly skilled AMT jobs 'fat" is an insult and shows why many of us doubt the competence and skill of non-AMTs negotiating for M&R. You are adding fodder to the "dump the industrial union" mantra.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt." - A. Lincoln
700 is only worried about airframe overhaul and line.
I don't know how many back shop/engine shop/landing gear shop/ employees you have, but if 700 was at Delta he would sell about 6,000 employees down the river
oh and have the worst pay in the industry.
Fact is, of the legacies US has the worst scope in the industry. Its the second worst scope of the big airlines.
700UW said:
The IAM never agreed to outsourcing, it took a CBA being abrogated in Chapter 11 for that to be accomplished, and you can thank the IBT who represented the mechanics at HP for the outsourcing, as they outsourced all their heavy.
The IAM was successful in 2008 to secure 50% of all billable hours in Heavy to must be done in-house.
No line can be farmed out, unlike your CBA at AA where they can farm out anything up to 35% of the maintenance budget and AA can go over that percentage if they choose.
Tell the whole store Overspeed, not half.
So US, who wasn't doing all of its engines before its first BK, some how outsourced that work in BK years later?
US IAM has always been the leader of outsourcing when it comes to the legacy carriers.
Overspeed said:
700UW,
I am telling the whole truth. Fact is that US/IAM wages have now been brought up twice. First time was when the IAM got the first CBA after the merger and then again due to piggybacking on the TWU wage adjustment language both in a BK negotitated CBA. Better than the IAM "superior" CBAs you say were forced on the IAM in BK. IAM failures. The TWU scope language still has far more work done in-house (reference the fact there are no IAM/US AMTs doing engine overhauls and we are still doing CF6 and CFM overhauls in TUL) and that CBA was negotiated in BK. You claim the IAM langauge is better, the facts are getting in your way 700UW.
The fact that you would reference AMT jobs being lost as "trimming the fat" is a red flag in the IAM negotiating skills and concerns me as to their influence. AMFAinMiami has pointed out you are of a Stores background and you obviously are willing to trim out AMT "fat" to keep other jobs. Great! I am looking forward to the "superior" IAM negotiating skills that you reference in the two BK CBAs that US IAM members got shafted in as to the great deal teh Association will get us.
Maybe we should trim some IAM represented Stores "fat" soon...
exactly.
US scope sucks. If you guys give it up for Delta pay, you just gave up ~25% more work then even Delta sends out.
Your max is 35% (if you work at AA)
We(DL) are at about 37% and should be under that next year. (bringing in most of the 320/330 components, 320 APU, 717 components and BR715 engines.)
Only a complete fool would be okay with slashing scope that much for Delta pay.
