Good one...... I got my A&P the old fashioned way. Air Force too. So there you go. Since Pan Am doesn't exist anymore because of corporate greed from the executives of the airline and you giving me the impression that you were employed there I would think if you were a mechanic you would not have the attitude you do and try to justify under paying AA AMTs. Also interesting you know who WT is. Go troll somewhere else.Worldport said:
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Funny you say that how come at every crew news there is a F/A bitching about their pay? All I'm saying to you is DL's wages might be higher but their work rules and medical benefits are not as good. This will be our first contract so let's wait and see. You are right I'm a fleet clerk and will not post on here any longer some of you guys it's driving me nuts being as thick headed (illogical) as you are. If you ever have anything constructive to say I would not have a problem having you post on the fleet thread. Now you can go and cry to the other two amts on this thread after all you are the only group that has suffered in the industryOldGuy@AA said:
http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2016/01/05/american-airlines-ranks-among-world-s-safest.html
AA ranks amongst safest airlines.
I think thats a record made possible by the mechanics and pilots of AA, along with management for not pushing bad airplanes.
In 20+ years of aircraft maintenance, I have never had a manager question me if I suggested a plane should go OTS or delayed for a mechanical discrepancy.
AA ranks amongst safest airlines.
I think thats a record made possible by the mechanics and pilots of AA, along with management for not pushing bad airplanes.
In 20+ years of aircraft maintenance, I have never had a manager question me if I suggested a plane should go OTS or delayed for a mechanical discrepancy.
Bingo..... Troll. You not only do not hold an A&P license but you attempt to trivialize mine and every other AMTs' license that you will never have. as a FSC in the TWU you enjoy above industry pay for your job and always have while we have not. If the FAs want to complain about their pay then they have that right. If you worked at Pan Am then you have had plenty of time to acquire an A&P and if you have been at AA for a while you even had the opportunity to get one handed to you by the TWU with no financial investment on your part or any real effort or risk on your part. Maybe you figured you couldn't pass the math test (7th grade level) that was used as the measure of intelligence the TWU felt applied to our job? Guys like you are what is wrong with the TWU. In my opinion if you can parlay your "Skill" into $40 per hour then more power to you, but don't knock me when all I'm asking for is the same (or better as Parker promised) pay and bennies that the other airlines offer. Also keep on believing that everyone else's medical is higher than ours. The TWU tells you that while they didn't bother telling you that, while Delta and UA had FREE medical, TWU members paid higher premiums and had higher deductables than any other workgroups in the company for YEARS. But thank you for leaving and please save your judgment of me and my co-workers for your FSC thread. As far as which group has suffered more in the industry you full well know it hasn't been the FSCs at AA. AMTs took a much bigger cut in pay and benefits than anyone else in the TWU or the entire company. Long past time to make things right and I admittedly am very cranky about it and expect to get what Parker promised. For someone who has basically no responsibility and has no accountability to the FAA you sure are an expert.Worldport said:
Boy oh boy you are full of yourself. You can be replaced in a heartbeat and you know it, in fact the upcoming negotiations will prove it. You are a little better with a wrench than me thats about it, get off you high horse. God forbid you get sick, you're not getting any better treatment than that ditch digger.You are going to drop like everyone elseOldGuy@AA said:
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700UW,
Work rules are things like how you run OT, who works holidays, who does avionics, etc... Scope governs outsourcing. Now we know why US outsources more work than even non-union DL. The IAM negotiators didn't know the difference between scope and work rule language.
The IAM stepmom is sounding even worse than I previously believed.
Work rules are things like how you run OT, who works holidays, who does avionics, etc... Scope governs outsourcing. Now we know why US outsources more work than even non-union DL. The IAM negotiators didn't know the difference between scope and work rule language.
The IAM stepmom is sounding even worse than I previously believed.
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He's probably a fleet guy hoping the AMT's get screwed.OldGuy@AA said:
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You know who loves posts like these? Management.OldGuy@AA said:
We wrestle around on the ground and they laugh and laugh...
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WN and US are very comparable in what they outsource.700UW said:
So you are happy about that right? or can the IAM only be the one who destroys our craft, AMFA must do better?
just to note oldguy, any time AA outsources work, most of the people doing that work........aren't A&Ps.OldGuy@AA said:
Most MROs keep a few A&Ps on staff, plus the airline staff, to push paper work. The majority of the work is unlicensed employees.
The MRO that does our(DL) MD88/MD90 overhauls shows have 0 A&Ps and 900 unlicensed employees. I imagine DL has a few A&Ps based in QRO to push paperwork.
and now kids, you see why I am such a scopehawk.
and just remember OS, to 700 only scope that matters in line and airframe overhaul.Overspeed said:
If you work in components, engines etc then he wants you all fired because the IAM says its okay.
Good luck with people like him leading your union.
