2014 Pilot Discussion

[nevergiveup]

Whatever you say Catpiss, Like we give a crap about "West pilots working against you" I would say that has been going on for quite awhile idiot. We already won scab don't you get it! Now go piss your pants and make up some more crap that I am sure will have us shaking in our boots! Oh and go F&^% yourself sacb. LMFAO

Move, you're back!

 

[electricjet98]

as far as anyone (especially apa) west and east are the same.....usapa.
you will get chewed and spat as well, and as much....

Perhaps...we SHOULD certainly see that APA in general (and certainly their MC) will have a vested interest in serving their interests FIRST. To whatever degree APA believes they can make USAPA even more dysfunctional than they already are, by supporting they west pilot interests still waits to be seen. The fact that east pilots have a tendancy to screw themselves into the ceiling at the very thought of the west gaining any traction in any venue is well documented...see the CLT rep's recent update or posts from east pilots following this post!

If east & west were both smart, they would be working together for their mutual benefit. That shouldn't be an alarming statement and something that we could all agree with...in principal. Unfortunately, it also requires a mutual degree of trust and respect which is something that has been long absent.

If I were to get my birthday wish (59th coming too soon!), it would be the east and west MC's agreeing on an SLI strategy they can both support...mutual effort for mutual benefit. Away from the political spotlight and away from political correctness. I know, unlikely...at least for now. Perhaps if the west is granted an MC in the mini-arb and the east sees what Jeff Freund intends to use in the SLI arbitration...cooler minds in the form of legal entities supporting east & west will cut thru the BS that has long-littered our mutual landscapes.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Whatever you say Catpiss, Like we give a crap about "West pilots working against you" I would say that has been going on for quite awhile idiot. We already won scab don't you get it! Now go piss your pants and make up some more crap that I am sure will have us shaking in our boots! Oh and go F&^% yourself sacb. LMFAO

I have a suggestion, chill before you have a heart attack. With that attitude you probably already ran off your wife. Thanks for letting me know I'm getting to you. You're probably one of those washed up, zip up boot, 70's grey mustache wearing geek that lives in the past. You make me laugh.

 

[Hawkhunter]

LOL, I can assure you that you are not getting to me. Once again you are wrong about me just like you are wrong about 99% of the time. Okay, you bore me, now run along. We already won idiot.  

 

[luvthe9]

I have a suggestion, chill before you have a heart attack. With that attitude you probably already ran off your wife. Thanks for letting me know I'm getting to you. You're probably one of those washed up, zip up boot, 70's grey mustache wearing geek that lives in the past. You make me laugh.

Classic Move2Clt, right JJ!, Seems your the one that is about to crack again!


PS the APA is not going to help you westies or us better get that in your head boy.

 

[CactusPilot1]

LOL, I can assure you that you are not getting to me. Once again you are wrong about me just like you are wrong about 99% of the time. Okay, you bore me, now run along. We already won idiot.

You won, huh. What could you buy on LOA 93? You're bored? You keep coming back for more. I'm having a good time making you look like a fool.

 

[A320 Driver]

You won, huh. What could you buy on LOA 93? You're bored? You keep coming back for more. I'm having a good time making you look like a fool.

And making yourself look like one in the process...

 

[luvthe9]

You won, huh. What could you buy on LOA 93? You're bored? You keep coming back for more. I'm having a good time making you look like a fool.

And just look at all the money you wasted on ties and Marfy, just think your senior boys could on the 330 or 76, too bad, enjoy being locked in PHX.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Perhaps...we SHOULD certainly see that APA in general (and certainly their MC) will have a vested interest in serving their interests FIRST. To whatever degree APA believes they can make USAPA even more dysfunctional than they already are, by supporting they west pilot interests still waits to be seen. The fact that east pilots have a tendancy to screw themselves into the ceiling at the very thought of the west gaining any traction in any venue is well documented...see the CLT rep's recent update or posts from east pilots following this post!

If east & west were both smart, they would be working together for their mutual benefit. That shouldn't be an alarming statement and something that we could all agree with...in principal. Unfortunately, it also requires a mutual degree of trust and respect which is something that has been long absent.

If I were to get my birthday wish (59th coming too soon!), it would be the east and west MC's agreeing on an SLI strategy they can both support...mutual effort for mutual benefit. Away from the political spotlight and away from political correctness. I know, unlikely...at least for now. Perhaps if the west is granted an MC in the mini-arb and the east sees what Jeff Freund intends to use in the SLI arbitration...cooler minds in the form of legal entities supporting east & west will cut thru the BS that has long-littered our mutual landscapes.

That ship has sailed.  Moving on......

 

[end_of_alpa]

I have a suggestion, chill before you have a heart attack. With that attitude you probably already ran off your wife. Thanks for letting me know I'm getting to you. You're probably one of those washed up, zip up boot, 70's grey mustache wearing geek that lives in the past. You make me laugh.

THERE IT IS!  WEST LOGIC AND DEBATE.  

 

[CactusPilot1]

You have to HAVE it to GIVE IT.  Besides, USAPA isnt going to ask for DOH.  The BPR meeting took the cuffs off the C&B the other day and now the merger committee can provide evidence that the East pilots deserve BETTER than DOH over the APA.
 
So youre probably right...no more DOH.

You deserve BETTER?

You are ENTITLED once again. This time with the APA. There's East pilot logic. And NO more DOH-at least you got that right.

 

[end_of_alpa]

You deserve BETTER?

You are ENTITLED once again. This time with the APA. There's East pilot logic. And NO more DOH-at least you got that right.

Learning has begun.  It's about time.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

ELEC98, let me see if I have this straight, BRICE LECAIRES wife copies data supplied by ALPA EAST to help the flt att negotiations, then she copies it gives it to the WEST merger comm,  supplied to NIC, used against us, 2 days of closed session no time for EAST rebuttal, you send feces and rocks in the mail to USAPA, tie up the "SAFETY HOTLINE " balk at WYE RIVER, LITIGATE to your hearts content have more than the average bears chance for compromise! And now your singing the JOHN LENNON song imagine!, With a big red poker my friend!

 

[Claxon]

ELEC98, let me see if I have this straight, BRICE LECAIRES wife copies data supplied by ALPA EAST to help the flt att negotiations, then she copies it gives it to the WEST merger comm,  supplied to NIC, used against us, 2 days of closed session no time for EAST rebuttal, you send feces and rocks in the mail to USAPA, tie up the "SAFETY HOTLINE " balk at WYE RIVER, LITIGATE to your hearts content have more than the average bears chance for compromise! And now your singing the JOHN LENNON song imagine!, With a big red poker my friend!

Agreed about the west greed.
 
The west is trying to rewrite history.  No doubt about bruces woman, no doubt about Wye, no doubt about Rico actions, no doubt about standing up in a meeting with Parker and accusing East pilots of apu, non direct flight plan routes.  No doubt about an america west pilot management pilot accessing sensitive computer information of East pilots and handing it over to a 2003 date of hire greaseball. 
 
The west had many chances to work it out, but they only chose results aiming at punitive damages to the East. 
 
Electricaljet98 is asking for a cumbaya position, when he is laying on the ground begging.
 
How embarrassing. 

 

[A320 Driver]

Agreed about the west greed.
 
The west is trying to rewrite history.  No doubt about bruces woman, no doubt about Wye, no doubt about Rico actions, no doubt about standing up in a meeting with Parker and accusing East pilots of apu, non direct flight plan routes.  No doubt about an america west pilot management pilot accessing sensitive computer information of East pilots and handing it over to a 2003 date of hire greaseball. 
 
The west had many chances to work it out, but they only chose results aiming at punitive damages to the East. 
 
Electricaljet98 is asking for a cumbaya position, when he is laying on the ground begging.
 
How embarrassing.

Lets put this to good use. Show the voting record of the PHX reps, the dozens of requests for PHX based pilots to populate committees, the number of quitters from those committees, the overtures made by the East at compromise and all the related AOL efforts to undermine the pilot group as a whole and lets parade this information in front of whatever authority or venue is available to counter the West whining about the lack of representation or perceived disenfranchisement.
It wasn't personal until the West's juvenile actions made it personal. This needs to be told.