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snapthis said:
:lol:
 
Says the guy who was hauling fr8t when I brought a job to the acquisition in 2005.
 
At the end of November 2004, US Airways had more than 1,870, or nearly 33 percent, of its pilots on furlough. The airline has the largest amount of furloughs in the industry.
 
BTW
I'll be back next week sporting a liberty tie....sport.
Tell the furlough story to the APA pilots. I am sure they are trying to keep their own protected from your predatory thoughts and intentions.
As far as the Liberty Tie goes, knock yourself out. It wears like a scarlet letter.
 
Claxon said:
Tell the furlough story to the APA pilots. I am sure they are trying to keep their own protected from your predatory thoughts and intentions.
As far as the Liberty Tie goes, knock yourself out. It wears like a scarlet letter.
Agreed, the tie kind of "cuts to the chase" so as to not waste time talking to a total moron.

Hard to feel sorry for an inmate sitting in jail after all the guards are gone and the doors have been left open!


seajay
 
snapthis: I'll be back next week sporting a liberty tie....sport.
end_of_alpa said:
Hey, buy several more! They make great Samurai headbands!
 
Why did you have to go and suggest Samurai? Sigh!...Now you've done it! It was bad enough for us to be facing "spartans", "battle"-tested-"knights" and even "Larry Potta". ;)
 
EastUS1 said:
snapthis: I'll be back next week sporting a liberty tie....sport.

 
Why did you have to go and suggest Samurai? Sigh!...Now you've done it! It was bad enough for us to be facing "spartans", "battle"-tested-"knights" and even "Larry Potta". ;)
Sorry, I meant the "Black Knight of Monte Python" King Arthur fame.
 
Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Act 10 Unionism Reforms
Thu, 07/31/2014 - 18:58 — Anthony Riedel
Today, the Wisconsin Supreme Court has upheld all provisions of Act 10. Mark Mix, president of the National Right to Work Foundation, issued the following statement in the wake of today's ruling:

"We applaud the court's ruling upholding Act 10. The court relied on principles established in Foundation-supported U.S. Supreme Court victories which have held that union officials have no constitutional power to force workers to pay union dues or fees as a condition of employment.

"The court's decision strikes a mighty blow for individual workers who do not want anything to do with an unwanted union in their workplace. Wisconsin government union officials should now understand that the constitutionality of Right to Work laws has long been a settled question. We're happy to report that the court rejected the union lawyers' frivolous arguments and ensured that thousands of Wisconsin's civil servants will continue to labor free from union coercion.

"No Wisconsin public worker should ever be forced to pay union dues or fees as a condition of employment. Now it is time for Wisconsin's legislature to protect that right for Wisconsin's private-sector workers and pass a private-sector Right to Work law."
http://www.nrtw.org/en/blog/wisconsin-supreme-court-upholds-act-10-07312014
 
Public employee union membership dropped significantly after the law passed, with AFSCME reporting a drop from 62,818 in 2011 to 28,745 in February 2012. In many cases, the union members were removed by the union after they declined to have dues collected by the union.[62][63]

Since teachers' unions were no longer able to automatically deduct dues from teachers' paychecks because of the new budget repair law, unions are using a variety of methods including using a combination of meetings, emails, phone calls and home visits to get teachers signed up for dues collection. Some school districts are primarily signing members up for electronic funds transfers so they can deduct money monthly.[64] The latest IRS filing available shows that WEAC collected about $23.5 million in membership dues in fiscal year 2009 from its approximately 98,000 members.[65]

Most of the membership dues go to pay salaries and benefits. The organization employed 151 people and paid them $14,382,812 which is an average compensation total of $95,250 per employee. This figure includes not only professional staff, but also lost wages paid to union bargaining team members, officers, and delegates to conventions.[66] The Wisconsin Education Association Council (WEAC), announced that it would lay off about 40% of its workforce. The layoffs and budget cuts are based on a projected loss of revenue as a result of the budget repair legislation.[65]

The UW-Madison teaching assistant union, which was at the forefront of the protests against the new budget repair law, voted not to recertify their union in August 2011. Union leaders for state and local government workers said they also are leaning toward not recertifying. The Wisconsin Education Association Council, the state's largest teachers union, is the only state union to date that has indicated it plans to seek official union status with the state.[67] The Wisconsin Education Association Council (WEAC) announced it would allow local union affiliates to possibly drop certification and that the agency would accept whatever the local unions chose.[68]

These issues will be re-determined after the State's appeal of Judge Colas's decision that part of the repair bill is unconstitutional (see above) has been ruled on by the Supreme Court of the State of Wisconsin, which calendared those appeal hearings for November 11, 2013.[69]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Wisconsin_Act_10
 
Claxon said:
Tell the furlough story to the APA pilots. I am sure they are trying to keep their own protected from your predatory thoughts and intentions.
As far as the Liberty Tie goes, knock yourself out. It wears like a scarlet letter.
 
 
Zone5 said:
Agreed, the tie kind of "cuts to the chase" so as to not waste time talking to a total moron.

Hard to feel sorry for an inmate sitting in jail after all the guards are gone and the doors have been left open!


seajay
 
That's your burden, not mine and the APA gets it. There will be no more land grabs with American because they know they are dealing with people who have integrity deficit syndrome and not to be trusted in negotiations. They know they are dealing with CHEATS.
 
Usapians carry the scarlet letter of entitlement.
 
For example:
 
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 1 of 4
James H. Anderson

November 20,2013
Senior Judge Roslyn O. Silver
United States District Court
Sandra Day O'Connor U.S. Courthouse, Suite 624
401 West Washington Street, SPC 59
Phoenix, AZ 85003-2158
Dear Senior Judge Silver:
It's never been clear to me what a Judge's job is: to apply intellect, scholarly knowledge and
precedent to cases at hand in order to render a scientifically and legally correct verdict, or
to do justice. Or perhaps it is some combination of the two. In a perfect world of course one
would do both simultaneously. But I venture to guess that since our world is imperfect, that
is why your job is such a difficult one. A job that one doesn't come by easily.
Though I wouldn't dare to compare myself with someone of your credentials and a US; Senate
confirmation no less.Lean fairly say that I did l1otcomebymyjobeasiIy either; '; ,
To (get my job I had to have a spotless record, a four-year degree or higher; uncorrected
20/20 visionan dabout  years of applicable experience. Once I'met those qualifications I
felt lucky when I was invited to travel across the countrythree different times for three
succeeding interviews that included challenging written tests, medical and psychological
evaluations, on the job operational testing, verbal quizzing and testing and other extensive
screenings culminating in a very stressful board interview, Only about one out of seven
invitees to the initial interviews ultimately received an offer of employment.
When I accomplished all of this'and was hired for lily dream job at the relatively young age
of 28 I was thrilled. It was reflected by those who surrounded me, who all had to go
through the same selection process. And it was reflected by the career that lay ahead of us.
We all had gotten a job where we worked under one of the leading contracts in the industry
with some of the highest levels of compensation, an outstanding retirement program and
the best training, professional envir-onment and work rules in the industry.
We all looked forward to our defined benefit retirement plan that provided us with a
guaranteed lifetime annuity 'of over $10,000per inonth for life beginning at age 60, or
under many-circumstances a lump sum payment of just over one million dollars:
We werethe bestof the'best andWere compensated accordingly, Formermilitary officers
consisting of commanders, fighter and transport pilots and educated, refined, credentialed,
experienced and carefully selected civilians. We were, and still are, the Sully's of aviation:
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 2 of 4
just the kind of person you want in the cockpit of the airliner you're flying on when the
chips are down.
These criteria and compensation levels applied to all three of the legacy airlines that had
come together to form U.S. Airways: Pacific Southwest Airlines (where Sully came from),
Piedmont Airlines where I was hired in 1989, and USAir, with roots back to the original Air
Mail service in the 1930's.
I don't know whether or not you're a fan of baseball but I feel comfortable saying with
some certainty that when a kid is growing up and wants to be a baseball player he doesn't
say "When I grow up I want to play for the Reno Aces!" No, s/he wants to play for the
Arizona Diamondbacks, the San Francisco Giants or the New York Yankees. Not the Fresno
Grizzlies or the Wilkes Barre Rail Riders.
I mention this, much of which you likely already know, because I also have a unique
perspective of America West Airlines: Through a provision of the Transition Agreement I
was one of only 5 "East" pilots who ended up flying out of Phoenix in the former America
West system between December 2007 and August 2008. And let me tell you, it was not
what I was used to!
As it is in baseball, so it is also with the airlines. Nobody with my qualifications aspired to
become a pilot for America West. Rather, the pilots of America West ended up there after
not making the cut at American, Delta, Northwest, United, USAir, PSA, Piedmont or the
other top-tier legacy airlines. I accurately felt that I had temporarily been "sent down" to
AAA from my spot in the major leagues.
All of a sudden I was flying with a group of rag-tag pilots who by their standards, had hit
the big-time and were flying jet airliners. Few, (26%, I am told) had a four-year degree.
Many wore thick glasses and many were quite overweight. Rather than officers, the
military veterans were former load-masters, landing signal officers and other noncommissioned
officers. And the core group who helped to get the airline up and running in
the 1980's were former strike-breakers from the big 1983 strike at Continental Airlines.
Even my simulator training instructor was second-tier. He was an 83 year old subcontractor
in a polo shirt and khakis, not a suit-clad check airman who was a manager in
the flight operations department at a major airline like I was used to.
The same standard held true for their fleet and working conditions. The America West
pilots had no retirement program besides a 401(k), worked to the limits permitted by
regulation and even had a joke about the airplanes they flew. It was "We had a
standardized fleet. Until we got our second airplane." It too was a rag-tag collection of used
and lease-returned airplanes. Never once did a shiny new plane make its way from the
factory straight on over to Phoenix. (Standardization in the cockpit is a hallmark of safety,
and identical cockpits like we had on every single airplane in the East were a rarity on the
West fleet.)
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 3 of 4
Upon consummation of the merger the former America West flight operations department,
including all of flight training and standards, was gutted and replaced in its entirety by the
East flight operations department. And the fleet was upgraded. All of the old 737's were
replaced by brand new A-321's and every other airplane was upgraded and retrofitted to
meet the standards of our top-tier airline.
While I was there, America West had its very best pilot contract ever while U.S. Airways
had its absolute worst, after two bankruptcies. Ironically these two contracts were pretty
much the same when it came to total compensation.
I can't tell you how thrilled the five of us East pilots flying in the West were when we got to
return to the East in October, 2008 when the America West Las Vegas base was closed and
Phoenix pilots were furloughed.
Since then and with time it has become increasingly clear that the value of the U.S. Airways
franchise is in the East. Unlike the five of us East pilots who got stuck in the West for a short
time five years ago, today the twenty or so West Pilots who have been flying in the East for
the last severa/years are fighting tooth and nail to not have to go back to the West.
Meanwhile, shiny new Airbuses, including brand new wide-bodies continue to be delivered
to the East as classes of 20 new-hire pilots per month come to the East month after month.
And the East continues to add new international destinations such as Istanbul, Athens and
Edinburgh.
For the old America West, how likely would a merger with American Airlines have been
without U.S. Airways? Please forgive me if I sound like a snob but it is true: Never in their
wildest dreams did a single America West pilot ever think he would be flying brand new
wide-body aircraft to Europe while making $200,000 a year. But now they can.
Why am I telling you all of this? Perhaps I sound entitled. I love to root for the underdog.
But I can tell you this for certain: I earned my job to be with the best of the best when I was
hired in 1989. And I guarantee that anyone of the current West pilots would have accepted
my job offer on the date I got it over the one that they have now if they could have gotten it.
But they couldn't.
If you think it's fair to take a kid who was sitting in new-hire ground school at America
West in 2005 while I had 16 years of service flying in the East and put him over 300
seniority numbers ahead of me, then implement the Nicolau Award.
If you think it's fair to take an America West pilot who started at that airline 10 years after I
was flying at U.S. Airways, who couldn't make the cut at USAir, Piedmont, PSA, American,
Delta or United and make him a wide body captain flying to Europe while simultaneously
making me his career co-pilot, then implement the Nicolau Award.
To be blunt, with the formation of the new American Airlines the pilots of the East and the
pilots at American will be getting the career they qualified for, earned and expected. And
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 4 of 4
the pilots of the West will be getting a payday, bonus and career beyond their wildest
expectations. I would hope that that would be enough.
But if not, then implement the Nicolau and staple me and my peers behind each and every
one of them.
If that's fair though, I'd have to think that it would be equally fair to place a career Ex Parte
or Municipal Court Judge directly into Federal District Court, while giving him/her
immediate senior status and waiving the Senate confirmation requirements in the process.
Thank you for your consideration,
Sincerely,
 
- James H. Anderson
Captain, hired June 21, 1989
 
 
http://www.talkairline.com/showthread.php?1018-Arrogant-Eastie-writes-judge
 
http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/usairways-east-vs-west-aka-why-you-should-never-write-a-judge.188764/
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This is how the industry looks at the sense of entitlement and a certain complex as noted by Alfred Adler
 
 
Definition by Adler[edit]
The superiority complex is an exaggerated striving for superiority in which the individual hides their feelings of inferiority. The inferiority complex, in contrast, is an exaggerated feeling of inferiority in which the individual hides their striving for superiority. While everyone has feelings of inferiority and strive to overcome them, to be called a complex, the feeling or striving must be pathological in nature. In the case of superiority complex, the individual would deny any feelings of inferiority, any attempt to uncover it would likely be met with resistance, or violence. While a patient may exhibit one complex or the other, Adler believed that if one complex was present, then the other can be found hidden in the patient's actions. Also, Adler believed that in every case of mental illness, an exaggerated feeling of inferiority will be found. Patients are defined not by whether or not they have an inferiority complex or superiority complex, but how it manifests itself in the patient's actions.[citation needed]
"We should not be astonished if in the cases where we see an inferiority [feeling] complex we find a superiority complex more or less hidden. On the other hand, if we inquire into a superiority complex and study its continuity, we can always find a more or less hidden inferiority [feeling] complex."[2]
"If a person is a show-off it is only because she or he feels inferior, because she or he does not feel strong enough to compete with others on the useful side of life. That is why she or he stays on the useless side. She or he is not in harmony with society. It seems to be a trait of human nature that when individuals - both children and adults - feel weak, they want to solve the problems of life in such a way as to obtain personal superiority without any admixture of social interest. A superiority complex is a second phase. It is a compensation for the inferiority [feeling] complex."[3]
"The superiority complex is one of the ways that a person with an inferiority complex may use as a method of escape from her or his difficulties. She or he assumes that she or he is superior when she or he is not, and this false success compensates her or him for the state of inferiority which she or he cannot bear. The normal person does not have a superiority complex, she or he does not even have a sense of superiority. She or he has the striving to be superior in the sense that we all have ambition to be successful; but so long as this striving is expressed in work it does not lead to false valuations, which are at the root of mental disease."[4]
From Alfred Adler's point of view, an individual faced with a task wants to overcome or master the task. This is known as striving for superiority. For a well adapted individual, this striving is not for personal superiority over others, but an overcoming of the task, or finding useful answers to questions in life. When faced with the task, the individual will experience a feeling of inferiority or a sense that the current situation is not as good as it could be. This feeling is similar to stress. If the individual has not been properly trained, the task may seem too much to overcome and lead to an exaggerated feeling of inferiority, or intense anxiety. The individual may, after several unsuccessful attempts to accomplish the task, give up on mastering the task, experiencing the inferiority complex, or a depressed state. The individual may also make several attempts at solving the problem and find a solution to the problem that causes problems in other areas. An individual who answers the question "How can I be thin?" by not eating will become thin, but at the cost over their overall health.
An individual who is not properly trained to answer life's problems may turn from striving for superiority in useful ways to that of a personal superiority at all cost. If an individual cannot be better than another on their own merit, they will attempt to tear down another person or group to maintain their superior position.
 

 
 
snapthis said:
 
 
 
That's your burden, not mine and the APA gets it. There will be no more land grabs with American because they know they are dealing with people who have integrity deficit syndrome and not to be trusted in negotiations. They know they are dealing with CHEATS.
 
Usapians carry the scarlet letter of entitlement.
 
For example:
 
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 1 of 4
James H. Anderson

November 20,2013
Senior Judge Roslyn O. Silver
United States District Court
Sandra Day O'Connor U.S. Courthouse, Suite 624
401 West Washington Street, SPC 59
Phoenix, AZ 85003-2158
Dear Senior Judge Silver:
It's never been clear to me what a Judge's job is: to apply intellect, scholarly knowledge and
precedent to cases at hand in order to render a scientifically and legally correct verdict, or
to do justice. Or perhaps it is some combination of the two. In a perfect world of course one
would do both simultaneously. But I venture to guess that since our world is imperfect, that
is why your job is such a difficult one. A job that one doesn't come by easily.
Though I wouldn't dare to compare myself with someone of your credentials and a US; Senate
confirmation no less.Lean fairly say that I did l1otcomebymyjobeasiIy either; '; ,
To (get my job I had to have a spotless record, a four-year degree or higher; uncorrected
20/20 visionan dabout  years of applicable experience. Once I'met those qualifications I
felt lucky when I was invited to travel across the countrythree different times for three
succeeding interviews that included challenging written tests, medical and psychological
evaluations, on the job operational testing, verbal quizzing and testing and other extensive
screenings culminating in a very stressful board interview, Only about one out of seven
invitees to the initial interviews ultimately received an offer of employment.
When I accomplished all of this'and was hired for lily dream job at the relatively young age
of 28 I was thrilled. It was reflected by those who surrounded me, who all had to go
through the same selection process. And it was reflected by the career that lay ahead of us.
We all had gotten a job where we worked under one of the leading contracts in the industry
with some of the highest levels of compensation, an outstanding retirement program and
the best training, professional envir-onment and work rules in the industry.
We all looked forward to our defined benefit retirement plan that provided us with a
guaranteed lifetime annuity 'of over $10,000per inonth for life beginning at age 60, or
under many-circumstances a lump sum payment of just over one million dollars:
We werethe bestof the'best andWere compensated accordingly, Formermilitary officers
consisting of commanders, fighter and transport pilots and educated, refined, credentialed,
experienced and carefully selected civilians. We were, and still are, the Sully's of aviation:
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 2 of 4
just the kind of person you want in the cockpit of the airliner you're flying on when the
chips are down.
These criteria and compensation levels applied to all three of the legacy airlines that had
come together to form U.S. Airways: Pacific Southwest Airlines (where Sully came from),
Piedmont Airlines where I was hired in 1989, and USAir, with roots back to the original Air
Mail service in the 1930's.
I don't know whether or not you're a fan of baseball but I feel comfortable saying with
some certainty that when a kid is growing up and wants to be a baseball player he doesn't
say "When I grow up I want to play for the Reno Aces!" No, s/he wants to play for the
Arizona Diamondbacks, the San Francisco Giants or the New York Yankees. Not the Fresno
Grizzlies or the Wilkes Barre Rail Riders.
I mention this, much of which you likely already know, because I also have a unique
perspective of America West Airlines: Through a provision of the Transition Agreement I
was one of only 5 "East" pilots who ended up flying out of Phoenix in the former America
West system between December 2007 and August 2008. And let me tell you, it was not
what I was used to!
As it is in baseball, so it is also with the airlines. Nobody with my qualifications aspired to
become a pilot for America West. Rather, the pilots of America West ended up there after
not making the cut at American, Delta, Northwest, United, USAir, PSA, Piedmont or the
other top-tier legacy airlines. I accurately felt that I had temporarily been "sent down" to
AAA from my spot in the major leagues.
All of a sudden I was flying with a group of rag-tag pilots who by their standards, had hit
the big-time and were flying jet airliners. Few, (26%, I am told) had a four-year degree.
Many wore thick glasses and many were quite overweight. Rather than officers, the
military veterans were former load-masters, landing signal officers and other noncommissioned
officers. And the core group who helped to get the airline up and running in
the 1980's were former strike-breakers from the big 1983 strike at Continental Airlines.
Even my simulator training instructor was second-tier. He was an 83 year old subcontractor
in a polo shirt and khakis, not a suit-clad check airman who was a manager in
the flight operations department at a major airline like I was used to.
The same standard held true for their fleet and working conditions. The America West
pilots had no retirement program besides a 401(k), worked to the limits permitted by
regulation and even had a joke about the airplanes they flew. It was "We had a
standardized fleet. Until we got our second airplane." It too was a rag-tag collection of used
and lease-returned airplanes. Never once did a shiny new plane make its way from the
factory straight on over to Phoenix. (Standardization in the cockpit is a hallmark of safety,
and identical cockpits like we had on every single airplane in the East were a rarity on the
West fleet.)
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 3 of 4
Upon consummation of the merger the former America West flight operations department,
including all of flight training and standards, was gutted and replaced in its entirety by the
East flight operations department. And the fleet was upgraded. All of the old 737's were
replaced by brand new A-321's and every other airplane was upgraded and retrofitted to
meet the standards of our top-tier airline.
While I was there, America West had its very best pilot contract ever while U.S. Airways
had its absolute worst, after two bankruptcies. Ironically these two contracts were pretty
much the same when it came to total compensation.
I can't tell you how thrilled the five of us East pilots flying in the West were when we got to
return to the East in October, 2008 when the America West Las Vegas base was closed and
Phoenix pilots were furloughed.
Since then and with time it has become increasingly clear that the value of the U.S. Airways
franchise is in the East. Unlike the five of us East pilots who got stuck in the West for a short
time five years ago, today the twenty or so West Pilots who have been flying in the East for
the last severa/years are fighting tooth and nail to not have to go back to the West.
Meanwhile, shiny new Airbuses, including brand new wide-bodies continue to be delivered
to the East as classes of 20 new-hire pilots per month come to the East month after month.
And the East continues to add new international destinations such as Istanbul, Athens and
Edinburgh.
For the old America West, how likely would a merger with American Airlines have been
without U.S. Airways? Please forgive me if I sound like a snob but it is true: Never in their
wildest dreams did a single America West pilot ever think he would be flying brand new
wide-body aircraft to Europe while making $200,000 a year. But now they can.
Why am I telling you all of this? Perhaps I sound entitled. I love to root for the underdog.
But I can tell you this for certain: I earned my job to be with the best of the best when I was
hired in 1989. And I guarantee that anyone of the current West pilots would have accepted
my job offer on the date I got it over the one that they have now if they could have gotten it.
But they couldn't.
If you think it's fair to take a kid who was sitting in new-hire ground school at America
West in 2005 while I had 16 years of service flying in the East and put him over 300
seniority numbers ahead of me, then implement the Nicolau Award.
If you think it's fair to take an America West pilot who started at that airline 10 years after I
was flying at U.S. Airways, who couldn't make the cut at USAir, Piedmont, PSA, American,
Delta or United and make him a wide body captain flying to Europe while simultaneously
making me his career co-pilot, then implement the Nicolau Award.
To be blunt, with the formation of the new American Airlines the pilots of the East and the
pilots at American will be getting the career they qualified for, earned and expected. And
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 4 of 4
the pilots of the West will be getting a payday, bonus and career beyond their wildest
expectations. I would hope that that would be enough.
But if not, then implement the Nicolau and staple me and my peers behind each and every
one of them.
If that's fair though, I'd have to think that it would be equally fair to place a career Ex Parte
or Municipal Court Judge directly into Federal District Court, while giving him/her
immediate senior status and waiving the Senate confirmation requirements in the process.
Thank you for your consideration,
Sincerely,
 
- James H. Anderson
Captain, hired June 21, 1989
 
 
http://www.talkairline.com/showthread.php?1018-Arrogant-Eastie-writes-judge
 
http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/usairways-east-vs-west-aka-why-you-should-never-write-a-judge.188764/
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is how the industry looks at the sense of entitlement and a certain complex as noted by Alfred Adler
 
 
Definition by Adler[edit]
The superiority complex is an exaggerated striving for superiority in which the individual hides their feelings of inferiority. The inferiority complex, in contrast, is an exaggerated feeling of inferiority in which the individual hides their striving for superiority. While everyone has feelings of inferiority and strive to overcome them, to be called a complex, the feeling or striving must be pathological in nature. In the case of superiority complex, the individual would deny any feelings of inferiority, any attempt to uncover it would likely be met with resistance, or violence. While a patient may exhibit one complex or the other, Adler believed that if one complex was present, then the other can be found hidden in the patient's actions. Also, Adler believed that in every case of mental illness, an exaggerated feeling of inferiority will be found. Patients are defined not by whether or not they have an inferiority complex or superiority complex, but how it manifests itself in the patient's actions.[citation needed]
"We should not be astonished if in the cases where we see an inferiority [feeling] complex we find a superiority complex more or less hidden. On the other hand, if we inquire into a superiority complex and study its continuity, we can always find a more or less hidden inferiority [feeling] complex."[2]
"If a person is a show-off it is only because she or he feels inferior, because she or he does not feel strong enough to compete with others on the useful side of life. That is why she or he stays on the useless side. She or he is not in harmony with society. It seems to be a trait of human nature that when individuals - both children and adults - feel weak, they want to solve the problems of life in such a way as to obtain personal superiority without any admixture of social interest. A superiority complex is a second phase. It is a compensation for the inferiority [feeling] complex."[3]
"The superiority complex is one of the ways that a person with an inferiority complex may use as a method of escape from her or his difficulties. She or he assumes that she or he is superior when she or he is not, and this false success compensates her or him for the state of inferiority which she or he cannot bear. The normal person does not have a superiority complex, she or he does not even have a sense of superiority. She or he has the striving to be superior in the sense that we all have ambition to be successful; but so long as this striving is expressed in work it does not lead to false valuations, which are at the root of mental disease."[4]
From Alfred Adler's point of view, an individual faced with a task wants to overcome or master the task. This is known as striving for superiority. For a well adapted individual, this striving is not for personal superiority over others, but an overcoming of the task, or finding useful answers to questions in life. When faced with the task, the individual will experience a feeling of inferiority or a sense that the current situation is not as good as it could be. This feeling is similar to stress. If the individual has not been properly trained, the task may seem too much to overcome and lead to an exaggerated feeling of inferiority, or intense anxiety. The individual may, after several unsuccessful attempts to accomplish the task, give up on mastering the task, experiencing the inferiority complex, or a depressed state. The individual may also make several attempts at solving the problem and find a solution to the problem that causes problems in other areas. An individual who answers the question "How can I be thin?" by not eating will become thin, but at the cost over their overall health.
An individual who is not properly trained to answer life's problems may turn from striving for superiority in useful ways to that of a personal superiority at all cost. If an individual cannot be better than another on their own merit, they will attempt to tear down another person or group to maintain their superior position.
 

 
East is superior and West is INFERIOR.  
 
We get it.
 
Build a bridge and get over it.
 
end_of_alpa said:
East is superior and West is INFERIOR.  
 
We get it.
 
Build a bridge and get over it.
 
A cognitive bias is a pattern of deviation in judgment, whereby inferences about other people and situations may be drawn in an illogical fashion.[1] Individuals create their own “subjective social reality” from their perception of the input.[2] An individual’s construction of social reality, not the objective input, may dictate their behaviour in the social world.[3] Thus, cognitive biases may sometimes lead to perceptual distortion, inaccurate judgment, illogical interpretation, or what is broadly called irrationality.
 
 
end_of_alpa said:
East is superior and West is INFERIOR.  
 
We get it.
 
Build a bridge and get over it.
Snap thinks the APA will side with the West... His belief is so certain he feels at liberty to speak on behalf of the APA, even while they are in negotiations.

Snap is in the inner circle... Like He who shall not be named... The inner swirl of a whirl pool in a porcelain bowl.
 
snapthis said:
 
A cognitive bias is a pattern of deviation in judgment, whereby inferences about other people and situations may be drawn in an illogical fashion.[1] Individuals create their own “subjective social reality” from their perception of the input.[2] An individual’s construction of social reality, not the objective input, may dictate their behaviour in the social world.[3] Thus, cognitive biases may sometimes lead to perceptual distortion, inaccurate judgment, illogical interpretation, or what is broadly called irrationality.
 
 
"...may sometimes lead to perceptual distortion, inaccurate judgment, illogical interpretation, or what is broadly called irrationality."   No argument. Such has all been well demonstrated by your west rep Cactusboy53: "This is Sparta!",  "cap'n aux", your "battle"-tested-"knight", as well as the absurdly self-styled "supreme commander" of your supposed "army" of course, and perhaps we needn't really dwell on your "Larry Potta", umm...wizards? ;) Less comical and far more rational characters can be found in any given Looney Tunes cartoon.
 
Phoenix said:
Snap thinks the APA will side with the West... His belief is so certain he feels at liberty to speak on behalf of the APA, even while they are in negotiations.
Snap is in the inner circle... Like He who shall not be named... The inner swirl of a whirl pool in a porcelain bowl.

Indeed, circling the drain!


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