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Will USAPA UEL Extortion Work This Time?
The ALPA UELs and then the USAPA UELs have a long history of poking an entity in the eye that the UELs want to reach an agreement with through the use of extortion. Throughout the US Airways pilots history the UELs poked management in the eye. For example, the UELs Fuel Awareness Program, USA Today Ads, Illegal Job Action, Turbulence Billboards, Turbulence Billboard on the side of a truck, Safety Campaign, and hiring a laid off college professor to act as a safety expert to bash the company, etc. are just a few examples that failed.
Now USAPA is using that tactic again, which will most likely fail because APA will not give in to extortion. USAPA either does not understand the M-B statute and its formation or and USAPA wants to bash APA by intentionally misrepresenting information to the DCA District Court. In Document 28, footnote 2 USAPA said, “As APA concedes, its unfair treatment of former TWA pilots in the seniority integration dispute arising from the merger of American and TWA was the reason Congress adopted the McCaskill-Bond Amendment. See Document 26-1 at 18."
The M-B Amendment was a result of the AFA and AFA MEC obtaining Missouri congressional delegation support. The AFA convinced Claire McCaskill and Kit Bond to support legislation to attachment the M-B amendment to the Omnibus Spending Bill.
Why does USAPA poke APA in the eye by incorrectly telling the court the basis for the M-B statute and then expect APA to agree to USAPA’s revised draft PA, UMTA, GA, and MBLS offer?
I have never understood the UELs strategy to hurt or embarrass a party as a means of extortion to force an agreement. This strategy has never, ever worked before and I suspect after nearly one-month since USAPA submitted its SLI/USAPA dissolution proposals (which are a secret being kept for the US Airways pilots) will work this time. Just like a negotiation with a terrorist no entity can ever give in to extortion and I suspect APA may just wait until SCC before actively speaking to the MC again. I hope I’m wrong…
The ALPA UELs and then the USAPA UELs have a long history of poking an entity in the eye that the UELs want to reach an agreement with through the use of extortion. Throughout the US Airways pilots history the UELs poked management in the eye. For example, the UELs Fuel Awareness Program, USA Today Ads, Illegal Job Action, Turbulence Billboards, Turbulence Billboard on the side of a truck, Safety Campaign, and hiring a laid off college professor to act as a safety expert to bash the company, etc. are just a few examples that failed.
Now USAPA is using that tactic again, which will most likely fail because APA will not give in to extortion. USAPA either does not understand the M-B statute and its formation or and USAPA wants to bash APA by intentionally misrepresenting information to the DCA District Court. In Document 28, footnote 2 USAPA said, “As APA concedes, its unfair treatment of former TWA pilots in the seniority integration dispute arising from the merger of American and TWA was the reason Congress adopted the McCaskill-Bond Amendment. See Document 26-1 at 18."
The M-B Amendment was a result of the AFA and AFA MEC obtaining Missouri congressional delegation support. The AFA convinced Claire McCaskill and Kit Bond to support legislation to attachment the M-B amendment to the Omnibus Spending Bill.
Why does USAPA poke APA in the eye by incorrectly telling the court the basis for the M-B statute and then expect APA to agree to USAPA’s revised draft PA, UMTA, GA, and MBLS offer?
I have never understood the UELs strategy to hurt or embarrass a party as a means of extortion to force an agreement. This strategy has never, ever worked before and I suspect after nearly one-month since USAPA submitted its SLI/USAPA dissolution proposals (which are a secret being kept for the US Airways pilots) will work this time. Just like a negotiation with a terrorist no entity can ever give in to extortion and I suspect APA may just wait until SCC before actively speaking to the MC again. I hope I’m wrong…
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You ALWAYS are.USA320Pilot said:
You're a narcissistic ass. Why else would you believe ANYONE cares what you think?
Bill Brasky said:
That's a bit blunt, but unarguably true.
USA320Pilot, on 21 May 2014 - 2:00 PM, said:
I hope I’m wrong…Just "I hope I'm wrong"...? No worries, nor need for any stressful "hope" at all there chip. You're always wrong in your worries and fretful predictions. You've a proven track record of many years that's fully demonstrative of that. Take heart, take a good, long, soothing deep breath and just relax. You've never yet been "right" in prescient attempts...in ANY sense of the word, so there's really nothing for you to reasonably worry about this time. 😉
A minor point of clinical curiosity though. From the time of the following posting to the present: Were you kidnapped by the Symbionese Liberation "Army" and held in a closet for months, or just the "spartan"..umm..."army" and reprogrammed. Which was it "Tania"? 😉
USA320Pilot comments: Mitch has 3 years of active AWA service, he has flown about 1,500 hours of major airline service, and he is relatively inexperienced in the cockpit. Meanwhile, the Nicolau Award gave him gave him a senioity number of 4,367 that placed him between two 19-year US Airways East pilots with 2,000 pilots below him in seniority. If this is not an injustice I do not know what is. As far as I am concerned Vasin can go "pound sand".
Nowadays?: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/history/famous-cases/patty-hearst-kidnapping
USA320Pilot said:
Oh gee...I dunno...perhaps because they've historically proven themselves the grandest scumbags in all of industry history where "integrating" seniority lists is concerned?..And they're now doing their level best to repeat their earlier behavior? A perhaps better question is WHY would anyone, even like your sorry self, see the slightest need for wanting to don knee-pads for them and play the part of worshiping supplicant? 😉
USA320"Pilot" fiercely approaching the APA (or anyone, for that matter):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrgxHvNNUc
Phoenix said:
Indeed. The APA's not going to "give" anyone ANYthing. Those who can even fantasize otherwise are burdened with the "minds" of "innocent" children...to put it as kindly as possible here. Case in point; the mighty "spartan" Shield-of-Leonidas maiden prechillil: "I'm sure the APA will be fair to us all." 😉
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Chip goes where he gets the most attention. He has no credibility with a small minion group and the company and the rest of the East pilots think nothing of him so he finds solace and comfort in those that he thinks listen to him......West pilots. But to them, he is really East and means next to nothing. Hence his blathering.dariencc said:
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luvthe9 said:
Here's the newspaper article.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2209&dat=19890204&id=7AEmAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CfwFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3914,863483
I love the internet. Stuff lives forever.....
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