2014 Maintenance & Related & AMFA Cards

[700UW]

You wont get an argument from me about, I wanted a bylaw that you have to be at an airline represented currently to be an officer of 142, if you dont have an airline nor even a member you shouldnt be in office, either resign or finish their term.
 
I dont even think he was a mechanic, I think he was CSA.

 

[blue collar]

You wont get an argument from me about, I wanted a bylaw that you have to be at an airline represented currently to be an officer of 142, if you dont have an airline nor even a member you shouldnt be in office, either resign or finish their term.
 
I dont even think he was a mechanic, I think he was CSA.

Didn't know what his job was, just knew he was from an airline not represented by IAM anymore. I agree about being an officer - if the CBAs that you/your team negotiates won't affect you (from your respective airline), then you shouldn't hold office. That's one thing people are talking about when they say there's no accountability.

 

[1AA]

Go ask a Former NWA Amfa Tech what they did for them . If your still not convinced how ineffective Amfa is i invite you to a IAM L-1781 meeting and introduce you to Retired UA Mechanics who should convince you . Every 2nd Wed at 1600 hrs. RD Hooton SFO   FS Agent/ Committee Man . 40 yrs . in the Industry . 4 Mergers since being hired at PSA at 17. Don't be fooled by Amfa .

Just ask the IAM what they did for NWA when they went on strike.
We know how ineffective the TWU has been since 1946. Course I was not born till way after that but we all know how the TWU sucks. The IAM is not any better today. So for argument sake we are even in that category. I will take my chances with AMFA any day against the TWU or IAM.  Just bring the vote and lets get it over with.

 

[TRAVIS]

Why is it do you think that so many NON-AMT's care so much about what union the AMT's are in.
It's not like we are wanting to go non-union, Just in a different UNION, IT's still a UNION.
It comes down to this the Union works for me not the other way and if I feel the union is not doing all it can in MY best interest then it's time to find a Union that want's too. 
If the ramp is happy with the IAM/TWU fine let them go for it, I wish them all the best, But as a AMT and just out of a contract I have to look at what we AMT's were given to vote on and I know that it was voted in by the members of a beat in the ground bunch of old guys here at US.
Some of us are ready for a change and tired of being the lowest payed AMT's of the Major Airlines and with the Company making record profits and OUR UNION put's that sub-standard contract on the table for the members to vote on, What's up with this, They should have been using this contract to set the BAR up or were we sold out again.(we will get them next time BS.)
 
The IAM may be doing a good job for the ramp and other non-AMT's but what I pay them for as a AMT they have let me and my Profession down, Just like this sub-standard contract with the company making money hand over fist! What would they have put in front of us if the company was not doing so good???.   
 
Time for a change put in a AMFA card!!!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Why is it do you think that so many NON-AMT's care so much about what union the AMT's are in.
It's not like we are wanting to go non-union, Just in a different UNION, IT's still a UNION.
It comes down to this the Union works for me not the other way and if I feel the union is not doing all it can in MY best interest then it's time to find a Union that want's too. 
If the ramp is happy with the IAM/TWU fine let them go for it, I wish them all the best, But as a AMT and just out of a contract I have to look at what we AMT's were given to vote on and I know that it was voted in by the members of a beat in the ground bunch of old guys here at US.
Some of us are ready for a change and tired of being the lowest payed AMT's of the Major Airlines and with the Company making record profits and OUR UNION put's that sub-standard contract on the table for the members to vote on, What's up with this, They should have been using this contract to set the BAR up or were we sold out again.(we will get them next time BS.)
 
The IAM may be doing a good job for the ramp and other non-AMT's but what I pay them for as a AMT they have let me and my Profession down, Just like this sub-standard contract with the company making money hand over fist! What would they have put in front of us if the company was not doing so good???.   
 
Time for a change put in a AMFA card!!!

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just because the ramp got a bigger piece of the iam pie in these contracts doesnt mean its doing such a great job. It still neglected to address the ramp pension/retirement options.

I have nothing persobally against anfa but i hope our mx stay with the iam since it will negatively affect rampers if they choose a craft union like the pilots have.

 

[737823]

just because the ramp got a bigger piece of the iam pie in these contracts doesnt mean its doing such a great job. It still neglected to address the ramp pension/retirement options.
I have nothing persobally against anfa but i hope our mx stay with the iam since it will negatively affect rampers if they choose a craft union like the pilots have.

And the POS UAL agreement. I wonder what will happen to scope in the new joint agreement.

Josh

 

[700UW]

http://www.usaamerger.com/2014/08/28/iamtwu-association-responds-to-peterson-letter/
 
http://www.usaamerger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/IAMTWU-Response-to-Peterson-Letter.pdf

 

[whoop whoop]

Tim Nelson,
 
You finally said what all A&P's knew all along and have been saying all along. To the detriment of MY profession, you greedily want us to be in your industrial unionism mentality for YOUR gain and only your gain.
 
I do understand the way you feel, but enough is enough. Not only do we feel being in these industrial unions are not helping us advance our profession. You guys are actually helping destroy our profession.
 
We wish you guys all the best, and give these corporations hell. We will help you guys in whatever you guys need. BUT, we need you guys out of our way. We need to represent ourselves and take care of our problems our way.
 
And thank you for being honest in your feelings.

 

[TRAVIS]

just because the ramp got a bigger piece of the iam pie in these contracts doesnt mean its doing such a great job. It still neglected to address the ramp pension/retirement options.

I have nothing persobally against anfa but i hope our mx stay with the iam since it will negatively affect rampers if they choose a craft union like the pilots have.

Tim the IAM has done nothing they said they were going to do when the IBT made the run on US. They said they will get the pension stepped up and the pay but what we have here is the same old wages with a 3% increase in witch doesn't cover even the cost of living this year much less the last few years. So here we are on the bottom with the Company showing the Best Profits they have ever had. Whats wrong with this picture?    
Its time the AMT's start tiring to change our job from UN-Skilled labor and put it to what it should be as a Skilled Profession Labor, As the AMT's and the PILOTS are both FAA LICENSED PROFESSIONALS in our work groups. Management doesn't want this and will fight it all the way and most of the union's as they group us in with other UN skilled and unlicensed labor groups.
 
Tim I can see what you are saying about the negatively affect on rampers, But too get our skill changed and set our pay in accordance with the responsibility asked of us, We must change. Its the only way. 
The IAM/TWU has put us all in a spot, Vote for it or else. You cant just vote IAM as it's a vote for the Association and the same goes for the TWU so they have a gun to your head with no other choice but Vote for some other union... So IBT has no dog in the fight and AMFA is ready to fight so lets get with it.
 
Tim have a blessed day! Hope the best for the ramp with this forced association BS.

 

[700UW]

9.53 percent raise DOS and another 3 percent in September

 

[AANOTOK]

Why is it do you think that so many NON-AMT's care so much about what union the AMT's are in.

You sure do use the words "so many" extremely loosely!
For the 100th time, I and most "NON-AMT's" (specifically Fleet) hope the
deserving folks in your class get all and more of what they are wanting...

 

[TRAVIS]

9.53 percent raise DOS and another 3 percent in September

Well you are so good at math percentages what percent will it take to get a 30 year topped line mech to the top of our pay grade for our profession as the pay scales are now with all the major airlines????
I will give you time.
And if that's to hard or makes your beloved IAM look to bad try just mid pay scale. 

 

[TRAVIS]

You sure do use the words "so many" extremely loosely!
For the 100th time, I and most "NON-AMT's" (specifically Fleet) hope the
deserving folks in your class get all and more of what they are wanting...

Peace brother. I hope this iam /twu thing doesn't blowup in any way and turn into a goat rope. Also wish you guys good luck.
The AA AMT's and the US AMT's just are not getting what we want out of our unions and like I said they work for me not the other way around so to force me into a union is BS.
As I said they work for me and all this shows is they don't want to loose our DUES that we pay them and look what we get for it the lowest pay scales of all the major airline.
Time for a change because each year we fall further behind the pay curve.
 
Have a  blessed night. 

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim Nelson,
 
You finally said what all A&P's knew all along and have been saying all along. To the detriment of MY profession, you greedily want us to be in your industrial unionism mentality for YOUR gain and only your gain.
 
I do understand the way you feel, but enough is enough. Not only do we feel being in these industrial unions are not helping us advance our profession. You guys are actually helping destroy our profession.
 
We wish you guys all the best, and give these corporations hell. We will help you guys in whatever you guys need. BUT, we need you guys out of our way. We need to represent ourselves and take care of our problems our way.
 
And thank you for being honest in your feelings.

fleet is a bigger craft than mx so imo it is a great advantage for fleet to tie in wirh mx and share the pie. It would hurt my craft if the mx chose a craft union like the pilots have.

 

[Socplat13]

Tim Nelson is correct. The age old expression, "power in numbers" is age old for a reason. It works.

AMFA has been a dismal failure for the MX craft. The Northwest tragedy and United debacle has hurt the MX craft immeasurably. 

Who came out better during the industry's convulsion from 2000-2009, US Airways mechanics or Northwest mechanics?

How did the craft union philosophy work out at Northwest? 

The AMFAholics can't seem to shake the good feeling that AMFA's propaganda causes. You're highly skilled, which MXs are--and the unskilled drag you down. Cleanse yourself of the peasants and Utopia will finally arrive. It's all b.s. and hasn't worked at any carrier in which the philosophy was tested.