1 Union, 2 Visions
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PITbull
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- Dec 29, 2002
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usfliboi,
You are not in the local, you have no idea what the PIT Pres. receives on behalf of her members. The co. does quite alot of giving on the PIT end just to keep her out of the media. They hate media attention, and will bend to prevent that.
This is how it works. Mangement is after every labor group and all employees, because we are all topped-out. Every labor group has more grievances than in anytime in history. PIT Pres. is just more vocal and brings the issues to the forefront. She does not take a "pasive" role on any level. She takes a "left" position because of the type of managment to deal with and the environment they have set in place.
You are not in the local, you have no idea what the PIT Pres. receives on behalf of her members. The co. does quite alot of giving on the PIT end just to keep her out of the media. They hate media attention, and will bend to prevent that.
This is how it works. Mangement is after every labor group and all employees, because we are all topped-out. Every labor group has more grievances than in anytime in history. PIT Pres. is just more vocal and brings the issues to the forefront. She does not take a "pasive" role on any level. She takes a "left" position because of the type of managment to deal with and the environment they have set in place.
usfliboi
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I dont have to be in local pitbull, as a afa member im concerned about a comment like that and surprised you would not be too. Im sure pit thought it funny and did a high five, but hopefully you can understand my point of view. Not trying to slam her, Teddy has done some good. Just was very surprised to hear that she would almost be proud of her comment. . Would you not agree or at least see where im coming from?
PITbull
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Dr. Bronner will do nothing for you or labor. He is here to get a return on his investment.
Dr. Bronner's role as a member of the BOD:
His interest and his fudiciary responsbility is to the sharholders.
Union Representatives role as members of a union organization:
Unions advocate labor, and labor's collective interest to protect their jobs, wages, benefits. Anyone in the country can find a bad job. The union leadership focus and responsibility is first to the membership, to ensure that their professions are maintained, wages are livable, and benefits are affordable. It is also a unions role to be actively vocal and maintain a voice in the work place.
Flight attendant role as workers:
As flight atendants on the line, our interest and focus is to ensure we meet the expectation of the customer for return business. As flight attendants, that is our contribution to the business plan.
You see the difference in roles in these positions or do you not? You need to understand the difference in roles and advocacies.
Somewhere you hope and strive for balance, if it can be attainable.
Dr. Bronner's role as a member of the BOD:
His interest and his fudiciary responsbility is to the sharholders.
Union Representatives role as members of a union organization:
Unions advocate labor, and labor's collective interest to protect their jobs, wages, benefits. Anyone in the country can find a bad job. The union leadership focus and responsibility is first to the membership, to ensure that their professions are maintained, wages are livable, and benefits are affordable. It is also a unions role to be actively vocal and maintain a voice in the work place.
Flight attendant role as workers:
As flight atendants on the line, our interest and focus is to ensure we meet the expectation of the customer for return business. As flight attendants, that is our contribution to the business plan.
You see the difference in roles in these positions or do you not? You need to understand the difference in roles and advocacies.
Somewhere you hope and strive for balance, if it can be attainable.
If you want some good commentary on this topic and the AFA presidents, click onto the Flyertalk board. Very revealing.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum51/HTM....TML/00725.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum51/HTM....TML/00725.html
usfliboi I agree 100% Xidas is anything but a leader, and she proved it herself with that big ego that can't be filled. It's really sad that someone’s personal issues become an obstacle that we just don't need at this time in out history.usfliboi said:
The people who still want to be employed will surely do the right thing and remove her so we can all move on.
USA320Pilot
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I believe it's wrong for anybody to insult an individual and if we want to be called professionals than we need to act with decorum.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
Regards,
USA320Pilot
Look at the last 4 years of profit and loss statements UZA, they are YOUR report card. [/QUOTE]
Well again Piney I appreciate the fact you help pay my way, but the fact remains we and not the union leaders determine the course of the company.
If you think I personally have an attitude then Xidas must be 100 fold up on your scale.
As far as personal destruction, I think she pretty well handles that issue with her legendary mouth.
Well again Piney I appreciate the fact you help pay my way, but the fact remains we and not the union leaders determine the course of the company.
If you think I personally have an attitude then Xidas must be 100 fold up on your scale.
As far as personal destruction, I think she pretty well handles that issue with her legendary mouth.
BillLumbergh
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Enough with the personal comments boys and girls.
UseYourHead
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I agree....USA320Pilot said:
well I hate to flame and run but i actually have to go fly on one of your planes.PineyBob said:
Before you in my mind have EARNED the right to critisize ANYONE in labor, how about you justify YOUR performance as a company.
As you so arrogantly pointed out, MANAGEMENT determines the direction of the company not labor. So again I ask you to review YOUR report card. Record losses, poor decisions dating back over 20 years and now it's all Teddy Xidas' fault that the company is where it is?
Just how stupid do you think I am that I can't smell a full blown witch hunt when I see one. Your motives are as transparent as a stripper is naked. The stench of this is so bad it's coming out of the screen UZA.
I was born at night, just not last naight. [/quote]
Thanks for flying USAirWays and have a safe trip Piney
NeedForSpeedNFS
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UZA, Go back to work tomorrow, refreshed, and feeling good about yourself. Your total disdain for the employees of this company are amazing! This management team will stop at nothing to try and divide the labor groups of this once, great company(the colodny years, and before) you probably dont even know that name. Keep working your magic, this company is finished, you may move on to bigger, and better things. so will we all. your divisive comments here our so transpearent, they bore me! GOOD DAY....MORE LATER
Lets turn this around, as they say, fair play….NeedForSpeedNFS said:
Dave Sucks.
Jerry's a union breaker.
Dave's stupid and a liar.
Ben's an idiot.
This team is sent from hell and our situation has nothing to do with recent industry wide events…
If we all would have stuck together everything would be fine…
Concession stand is closed…
And then the ever present certain number one poster blasting us day in and day out with both barrels, slams Mr. Bronner like he must listen to her…
And you feel I am out of line.
Sir, I am in line as far as these certain posters are out of line.
Good Day.....
