yep tulsa you were mislead by the twu AGAIN

BigMac said:
You keep using security as a defense. Do you know anything about programming, hacking, leaving thumbprints everywhere you visit or post.? If I was a hacker I could have your IP, ISP, SSN, home address on Google maps, and DL # in less than 5 minutes. Your real name may save me 30 seconds. Why would anyone hack you? Your not worth it for real hacking. They wouldn't waste time on you when they can hack anyone they want. Hackers like a challenge and most aren't in it for small chump change. So Tync that excuse is getting very old and looks silly to anyone who knows anything about programming or coding. If you don't want Ken to know your name then that's one thing..everything else is just an excuse.
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You have a lot to learn my friend.
 
I referred to the basics in a past thread. I'm not here to teach online security and this isn't a Tech BB. The ones you should have enlighten you are the ones that keep insinuating if you don't tag yourself with your identity then you are wrong. That has to be the dumbest advice and opinion I have seen in a while. If you want a good read google TOR. Very awesome anon tool.
 
AC Tynker said:
I referred to the basics in a past thread. I'm not here to teach online security and this isn't a Tech BB. The ones you should have enlighten you are the ones that keep insinuating if you don't tag yourself with your identity then you are wrong. That has to be the dumbest advice and opinion I have seen in a while. If you want a good read google TOR. Very awesome anon tool.
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Do you walk around scared of your own shadow too?
Is that a drone flying over your current location?
 
Chuck Schalk said:
you are wrong again.....

I told my members, if you are going to vote "no" then it will have to be "NO" all the way. I explained that the company will come back with less and the road will only get harder. If we could not get a contract that satisfied us then we will have to keep voting "no" and get it to the PEB as a our only chance, no promises. I told them, if your going to crumble in between the first "NO" vote and the PEB then vote "yes". That is why 96% voted "no" a third time. when the TWU ATD crumbles and uses scare tactics instead of "fighting like hell" then what is their to be proud of? Another industry leading concessionary contract? oh yeah, we are all real proud....

turn the mirror around and see what a clueless union person looks like
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So your goal was to get to a PEB eventually? Missed that BK thing getting in the way didn't you? You know, the one that was a scare tactic.

You mislead constantly Chuck. You try to convince people that we had some kind of leverage in BK when we had none. Yes we could have voted no and risked a favorable ruling by Lane but that was very unlikely. The APA is feeling that and now they are throwing a tantrum. (I am sure, just as you should be, that AA is planning to take the APA to court for a TRO like they did with us.) Had we voted down the CBA then we would have faced the implications of the term sheet. Based on the Company's Transition Plan the cuts would have been deep like they said they would have under abrogation. AA management is going crazy trying to outsource as much as they can quickly. Under the 3/22 term sheet they would have done the same while your hero Bob and the rest of the vote no coalition tried to get AA to give in to your demands. You know what, AA probably would have given most of what you guys wanted pay wise but that would have been after only DWH and a much smaller TUL was left.
 
We would have leverage in BK or at least a shot of improving if we had a real union that would have promised to "FIGHT LIKE HELL"!!
But the Fight Like Hell mantra went to HELL after the TWU was bribed by the company in paying their legal fees. That is fact and now history. Now we are making history as everyday goes by under a new all time low for the AMT in this once proud profession.

There is a reason why so far over 2,000 flight attendants and almost 900 AMT's signed up to get the hell out of here.
 
AC Tynker said:
Back from your M.I.A. session to show your Ignorance I see Simpleton.
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Dave is busy doing interviews making false claims about how many cards he has. Kind of like the AMP claims that they had all those cards as well.

AMFA is like the scientology. They play on people's ego's and insecurities in the hope that their craft union mantra will convince them that they will suddenly be happy and wealthy. The reference a AMT pay being so high when you are AMFA and promise it can be you too. They fail to mention that out of the original 25,000 that they told that story to only a few thousand ever got that money. Not all of us can be Tom Cruise or John Travolta I guess.
 
1AA said:
We would have leverage in BK or at least a shot of improving if we had a real union that would have promised to "FIGHT LIKE HELL"!!
But the Fight Like Hell mantra went to HELL after the TWU was bribed by the company in paying their legal fees. That is fact and now history. Now we are making history as everyday goes by under a new all time low for the AMT in this once proud profession.

There is a reason why so far over 2,000 flight attendants and almost 900 AMT's signed up to get the hell out of here.
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Getting legal fees paid in BK is not unusual.

If fighting like hell and getting your ass handed to you was what you were looking for then you will get that with AMFA.

I wish all those who took EO's well and good thing we all voted yes or a lot of people would have just gotten the boot plus a few thousand more with no extra cash in their pockets. At least there we enough that thought the whole thing through before voting on the TA and LBFO at the TWU and APFA.
 
AC Tynker said:
I referred to the basics in a past thread. I'm not here to teach online security and this isn't a Tech BB. The ones you should have enlighten you are the ones that keep insinuating if you don't tag yourself with your identity then you are wrong. That has to be the dumbest advice and opinion I have seen in a while. If you want a good read google TOR. Very awesome anon tool.
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I never insinuated/said if you don't tag yourself with your identity then you are wrong.

What I said, not insinuated, is that you support/post/promote the twu because you believe so strongly in the twu. However, you do not believe in this industrial, catch all, undemocratic, unaccountable union enough to state your name. Your attempts to make the twu into a union that actually "fights like Hell" is both cowardly and foolish.

Internet security is your excuse? Think I'll call bullshit on that one Don.

Go AMFA!
 
Ken MacTiernan said:
I never insinuated/said if you don't tag yourself with your identity then you are wrong.

What I said, not insinuated, is that you support/post/promote the twu because you believe so strongly in the twu. However, you do not believe in this industrial, catch all, undemocratic, unaccountable union enough to state your name. Your attempts to make the twu into a union that actually "fights like Hell" is both cowardly and foolish.

Internet security is your excuse? Think I'll call bullshit on that one Don.

Go AMFA!
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Pamela,

I would expect no less from you. Like I said before, Bad decisions from you are definitely expected so any advice coming from you about Anything should unequivocally be challenged and a second opinion sought .
 
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