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Mr Eagle
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Non-contract employees who are active on January 1, 2006, will also receive two (2) floating holidays. In some operational workgroups covered by the America West Employee Handbook, employees may elect to have the two floating holidays paid out. President’s Day, Monday, Feb. 20, 2006 and Columbus Day, Monday, Oct. 9, 2006 will be the holidays observed for this pay out. Accrual and use of floating holidays is explained in greater detail in the Employee Handbook (for pre-merger America West employees) and the US Airways Corporate Policy Manual (for pre-merger US Airways employees).
The Company will observe the following holidays in 2006:
· New Year's Day: Monday, Jan. 2
· Martin Luther King, Jr. Day: Monday, Jan. 16
· Memorial Day: Monday, May 29
· Independence Day: Tuesday, July 4
· Labor Day: Monday, Sept. 4
· Thanksgiving Day: Thursday, Nov. 23
· Christmas Day: Monday, Dec. 25
This Comes From The IBT Negotiations Last Contract With The Tech's and Related The AWA company Added this to The Employee's Policy's Because of Ground WORK Laid Down By THE IBT,Teamster's. So This Could Just Be The Start Of What the Teamster's Can DO In Action Not Just With WORD'S. ME
We are not going through just a change in representation like the examples your gave... We are going through a Merger with a possible change in representation. NMB and RLA are not the only governing agentcies in this, being that under the RLA this dispute will be concidered a Major Dispute.
First off , it is documented that a change in representation does not make our IBT AWA contract a dead letter . The IBT contract will be serviced by IAM representing former HP employees until the current IAM contract is ammended. Case No. 92-7253 US Court of Appeals.
The same case involving USAir Shuttle inc. goes on, and on, and on but in a nutshell says since the formers unions member retified CBA was ammendable as of the date of the merger it is still ammendable and the company is legally obligated to renegotiate.
Its all on there website Teamsters along with a link to the court of appeals case.
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"The Teamsters’ misrepresentations put your contract and your future at risk. If there is a representation election for US Airways’ mechanics and related employees and fewer than 50 percent of all active and furloughed employees of US Airways and America West cast ballots, there will be no union representative and no contract, and the carrier will be able to impose any terms it wants.
Sincerely and fraternally,
William O’Driscoll
President and Directing General Chairman"
I keep seeing this common union scare tactic. The statement about the 50% + 1 vote is true. Does the IAM have so little faith in it's membership that it would be worried about a voter turn out? Could it be that the IAM has lost so much to the courts and the company that they are afraid that the members will just throw their hands in the air and give up. It's a sad day for the union members every where, to have a membership so beaten up that they just give up. Don't give up my Brothers. Fight one more time for your future. Sigh a card and send it in to the Teamsters. HAVE A CHOICE.
The IAM/company has supplied you with a copy of your "new" contract. Read it and compare it to the Teamsters Local 104 contract. 2009 is a long way from today.
Teamsters Local 104 Contract
Sincerely and fraternally,
William O’Driscoll
President and Directing General Chairman"
I keep seeing this common union scare tactic. The statement about the 50% + 1 vote is true. Does the IAM have so little faith in it's membership that it would be worried about a voter turn out? Could it be that the IAM has lost so much to the courts and the company that they are afraid that the members will just throw their hands in the air and give up. It's a sad day for the union members every where, to have a membership so beaten up that they just give up. Don't give up my Brothers. Fight one more time for your future. Sigh a card and send it in to the Teamsters. HAVE A CHOICE.
The IAM/company has supplied you with a copy of your "new" contract. Read it and compare it to the Teamsters Local 104 contract. 2009 is a long way from today.
Teamsters Local 104 Contract
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"Go back to the situation in Iraq. The Sunni's were against the elections as they were in the minority. The Shi'ite's were all for it as they had the raw numbers to win.
Why then, given the fact that IAM has the overwhelming Majority of workers, WHY are they acting like the minority group instead of pushing to have an election once and for all?"
Hmmmm.......very good example Bob!
Why then, given the fact that IAM has the overwhelming Majority of workers, WHY are they acting like the minority group instead of pushing to have an election once and for all?"
Hmmmm.......very good example Bob!
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Why don't you ask the ibt why they did the samething against amfa at WN and CO?
It is called protecting what you have and the membership can still call for a vote if they sign enough cards.
The ibt is soliciting the IAM members and the IAM is just defending its own.
It is called protecting what you have and the membership can still call for a vote if they sign enough cards.
The ibt is soliciting the IAM members and the IAM is just defending its own.
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Actually the IAM is not "protecting it's own" as much as it is trying to convince some of the Teamsters to see their side of the situation. I welcome the truth of the situation but not random acts of "misinformation". The meeting in Tempe was an attempt to convince some of the Teamsters to believe some of the false information that has appeared on this board. The primary thing was that the IAM was going to be representing members of Teamsters Local 104. That misinformation was very poor statement to make, since the decision had not been made.
Why would the IAM have a meeting in Tempe if it was a for gone conclusion that the IAM was going to represent the AWA Teamster Members? The IAM does not inform its own members of the situation let alone non-members. Unless there was a possibility of some thing different than the IAM had been saying. Hmmmm.......something to think about.
Why would the IAM have a meeting in Tempe if it was a for gone conclusion that the IAM was going to represent the AWA Teamster Members? The IAM does not inform its own members of the situation let alone non-members. Unless there was a possibility of some thing different than the IAM had been saying. Hmmmm.......something to think about.
The real holding of the AFA case is that “collective bargaining agreements survive a change in representative.†That has consistently been the policy of the NMB since the Railway Labor Act (“RLAâ€) was enacted. In its first annual report in 1935, the NMB wrote that “a change in representative does not alter or cancel any existing agreement made on behalf of the employees by their previous representatives.â€
The Teamsters’ misrepresentations put your contract and your future at risk. If there is a representation election for US Airways’ mechanics and related employees and fewer than 50 percent of all active and furloughed employees of US Airways and America West cast ballots, there will be no union representative and no contract, and the carrier will be able to impose any terms it wants.
Sincerely and fraternally,
William O’Driscoll
President and Directing General Chairman
K you say one thing , old willy says anouther? Which is it?
“a change in representative does not alter or cancel any existing agreement made on behalf of the employees by their previous representatives.â€
So our current IBT contract stays intact, since AWA has been names the surviving carrier. Or like 700 states "they are going to be faced with the current IAM CBA" ??????????????????????????????
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How many mergers have you been in?
I have been in three. If and when the IAM is certified for single carrier status the former ibt represented mechanics become IAM members and fall under the exsisting CBA a transisition agreement is negotiated to bring them under the IAM CBA.
When the ibt represented PSA and US merged they fell under the US/IAM CBA. Same for PI except that PI was all ready IAM.
I have been in three. If and when the IAM is certified for single carrier status the former ibt represented mechanics become IAM members and fall under the exsisting CBA a transisition agreement is negotiated to bring them under the IAM CBA.
When the ibt represented PSA and US merged they fell under the US/IAM CBA. Same for PI except that PI was all ready IAM.
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Morning Mr. 70,
It seems that you "demand" that others respond to question you have posted and even after they answer you continue to "demand" an answer. It seems to me that you should answer the question that has been summited to you.
Here is a very good question from Bob: (remember don't answer with a question)
If it's NOT all about revenue streams generated by the workers for the benefit of the union then why would the concept of a fair & open competition for the hearts and minds of the workers be so foriegn to a true trade unionist?
Forget the contract 700UW and answer the question. Here is another one for you to ponder or sidestep.
If you and others in the IAM leadership are totally confident that you've represented your membership to the best of your ability AND given your numerical advantage over IBT why are you so dead set against allowing the workers decide who they want to represent them?
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Ask the ibt why they did the same as the IAM at WN and CO when being raided?
The question has not been answered that I asked of the ibt supporters.
Because a true trade unionist would not be raiding another union.
The question has not been answered that I asked of the ibt supporters.
Because a true trade unionist would not be raiding another union.
