I can only hope that they will stand up for us now. I find it hard to believe that the IAM will get us past this roadblock without giving up something. Don't get me wrong, we have given all we can to make it still worth while to stay onboard for as long as it lasts. As I have said the pension deal is ALPA's to lose, not ours. Where I work in Fleet Service, we can do nothing more to increase productivity. It is no secret that the lack of hours flown as well as the big pensions the pilots enjoy are the companys biggest issues. I don't want to attack their group, just stating what most already know. Outsourcing our work or some of the mechanics work is not goung to save our cash drain. Maybe it will save a few thousand dollars here and there, but that is a drop in the bucket with our problems.