What are we, M & R Related, asking for.

Thank you. My position above all else is to protect our Frozen Pension. The goal of a industry leading contract is always there. Top wages and benefits including a matching 401k that meets or exceeds that of the airlines competitors. 
 
As far as the wage portion of negotiations go, let's not include it in this discussion because the company already stated what their offer is regarding pay...Delta + 7%. Now, unless the association is willing to go for more than 7%, that issue is a moot point.
 
The association CANNOT take credit for Delta +7%....They can take credit for anything OVER that. So the pro association cheerleaders cannot thank the TWU for that agreement. But they will anyway.
I would like the two vacation weeks back....
I want to see a realistic and substantial shift differential.
Of course I would like my pension back unfrozen and retiree medical as well. However, those are the two big items that the company has wanted for years. I do not expect it back nor do I expect the association to fight for it.
I would like an annual cap on medical premium increase.
10 holidays back at double time and a half. However I would settle for double time as this would be my GIVE portion of the customary GIVE and TAKE negotiations. 
GEO pay. 
An increase in license pay. The job is becoming more stressful as we are being held more and more accountable for every I we dot and T we cross.
 
Now I will wait for the PRO ASSOCIATION non mechanics to reply to my post about how I am foolish for thinking I will get all this stuff back,,,
 
MetalMover said:
As far as the wage portion of negotiations go, let's not include it in this discussion because the company already stated what their offer is regarding pay...Delta + 7%. Now, unless the association is willing to go for more than 7%, that issue is a moot point.
 
The association CANNOT take credit for Delta +7%....They can take credit for anything OVER that. So the pro association cheerleaders cannot thank the TWU for that agreement. But they will anyway.
I would like the two vacation weeks back....
I want to see a realistic and substantial shift differential.
Of course I would like my pension back unfrozen and retiree medical as well. However, those are the two big items that the company has wanted for years. I do not expect it back nor do I expect the association to fight for it.
I would like an annual cap on medical premium increase.
10 holidays back at double time and a half. However I would settle for double time as this would be my GIVE portion of the customary GIVE and TAKE negotiations. 
GEO pay. 
An increase in license pay. The job is becoming more stressful as we are being held more and more accountable for every I we dot and T we cross.
 
Now I will wait for the PRO ASSOCIATION non mechanics to reply to my post about how I am foolish for thinking I will get all this stuff back,,,
MetalMover, tisk tisk! Stop the egging on with comments like your last one. I too hope you guys get all the above and more. I will now vacate the M&R forum and let you folks discuss your wants and needs. But MetalMover c'mon, someone has to be the first to stop the nonsense. Carry on!
 
5-year top out.
More allowed off at a time.
In addition to what was posted above.
 
The company is offering up Delta +7% lets see the strength of the almighty ASSociation can get something more than that...
 
Vortilon said:
All they need to do is restore our AMFA contract with adjustments to the pay.
Agreed. The longer this thing drags out the more cards that will be turned in as long as there isn't a 2 year waiting period. This could work in our favor like it did in 2001.
 
You will get nothing other then an association begging on their knees not to lay anyone off.
 
AANOTOK said:
MetalMover, tisk tisk! Stop the egging on with comments like your last one. I too hope you guys get all the above and more. I will now vacate the M&R forum and let you folks discuss your wants and needs. But MetalMover c'mon, someone has to be the first to stop the nonsense. Carry on!
You needed not respond. You know exactly who I am referring to with that comment.
 
Vortilon said:
All they need to do is restore our AMFA contract with adjustments to the pay.
Vortilon said:
All they need to do is restore our AMFA contract with adjustments to the pay.
7 weeks vacation, 1 1/2 times training off shift, 14 days accrued sick time per year, double over time, longevity pay, penalty hour, uniforms back to 11 sets, uniform laundering, guaranteed 4 hours early call in on late call, remove CC interviews, night shift retention premium, and so on. Did I forget any other biggies? That contract has been so long ago that the TWU forgot all about it.
 
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1AA said:
7 weeks vacation, 1 1/2 times training off shift, 14 days accrued sick time per year, double over time, longevity pay, penalty hour, uniforms back to 11 sets, uniform laundering, guaranteed 4 hours early call in on late call, remove CC interviews, night shift retention premium, and so on. Did I forget any other biggies? That contract has been so long ago that the TWU forgot all about it.
Holidays, but again, you know, I hate to be such a downer and I kn ow you guys would like to just ignore me, but in reality, you are all dreaming again. Thinking that some how our representatives actually give a rats arse and as we all know they don't. All they care about is their own cushy deals. Thus, we will get nothing. Most of us will roll on out to retire never having seen a good contract other then 2 years of 01. that's it.
 
bikeguy said:
5-year top out.
More allowed off at a time.
In addition to what was posted above.
 
The company is offering up Delta +7% lets see the strength of the almighty ASSociation can get something more than that...
 
We on the line are 5 years to top out already. The support mechanics should be changed to 5 along with the a/c cleaners.
 
I want our flex vacation days back.
 
I personally believe with the relation of where the company was and where it is now, you guys should get everything back that was taken from you to help the company become successful.  All previous concessions should be 100% restored and a little extra on the side for what the employees have done to do their part.  With AA's record profits and the merger with US you guys should get everything restored plus some.  Some on here are correct, this association will in fact take credit for the D+7 when it is the company offering it to all the other groups it is not the association that nego it in.  
 
scorpion 2 said:
I don't want any shape or form of the IAMNPF.
The way the agreement is written the only way you will not end up in the IAMNPF is to reject the entire contract that will have us going into it, or somehow get the TWU and IAM to agree that the letter they signed is not binding. The way the letter is written the agreed upon objective between the TWU and IAM is to get us all in the IAMNPF, and it that cant be done, in other words if the company refused a cheaper pension plan than they have now, or we reject the entire contract because thats in there, then they will continue to try and keep those currently in the IAMNPF in the plan. 
 
My concern is since we are so beaten down and suffer from diminished expectations that with the money and other improvements that will be there many will grab the deal even with us not getting a contribution like the pilots or Flight Attendants and we will end up in the IAMNPF like it or not, all they need is 50% plus one. 
 

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