US Pilots labor thread 5/3-

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Barrister you really need to take an honest look at the Nicolau list. Really way more? Actually 202 not 250.

The first 1000 on the Nicolau only has 202 west pilots.

Position Name DOB
W) 999 Cafarelli 12/1949
E) 1000 Hull 7/1955

There are 202 west pilots in the first 1000. West pilots 20.0%

E) 1499 Harris 2/1947
W) 1500 Engel 10/1947

There are 450 west pilots in the first 1500. West pilots 30%

E) 1999 Mikita 1/1960
W) 2000 Brewer 11/1954

There are 693 west pilots in the first 2000. West pilots 34.6%

W) 2499 Kelsey 12/1956
E) 2500 Dowmont 12/1952

There are 915 west pilots in the first 2500. West pilots 36.6%

E) 2999 Bromka 8/1954
W) 3000 Orenga 1/1963

There are 1096 west pilots in the first 3000. West pilot 36.5%

Now take a look at the facts. The first 3000 pilot 2/3 are east pilots. So you guys can stop the tears about all those west pilots coming to take your spots or that you will never upgrade ect. Now take a look at the birthdates. The first one the east guy is younger kind of blows your theory. The next one is within 8 months not years. The 2000 level the east guy is younger again. Not until you get to the 2500 pilot level do we start to see much divergence.

When you get to 4000 there are still only 1525 west pilots. 38.1%. At the bottom of the active list. Dave O Dell is number 4769 with a total of 1853 west pilots. For a total of 38.8% So you see that the east gets 2/3 of all upgrades. So when an west pilot gets moved up 2 other east pilots are in front of him. You all can stop crying about never upgrading.

edit: Looks like nic already answered this. Our numbers are close but slightly different. But you can see that the east theory of total despair because of the Nicolau is false.

Bump.

This should be printed and distributed far and wide. Every time someone from the east harps on the usual this should be presented.

 

[cynic]

Maybe this will light a fire under USAPA to work out a new contract.

http://federalregister.gov/OFRUpload/OFRData/2010-11026_PI.pdf

As part of its ongoing efforts to further the statutory goals of the Railway Labor
Act, the National Mediation Board (NMB or Board) is amending its Railway Labor Act rules to
provide that, in representation disputes, a majority of valid ballots cast will determine the craft
or class representative.

Given the traditional East apathy when voting, it has become much easier for those that want to run them out of office.

 

[Metroyet]

Not entirely true. The Gaming Commission will have something to say if a casino were to let a person who is clearly not of sound mind, someone with a deficiency which is glaringly apparent and who cannot appreciate their actions, gamble and lose exorbitant amounts of money on a repeated basis. That's the situation I was aiming for.

Agreed! Hadn't thought of the totally mentally incompetent gamblers out there. Geez with all the USAPA delusions of grandeur, paranoid megalomania, and psychotic, narcissistic behavior, It's no wonder US Air had to close the Las Vegas base. It was either than or get thrown out.

 

[Richard]

The post has been made. The next person who bumps the whole post gets suspended for a week.

You can link back to the original post but you may NOT repost the whole post.

I just deleted the last repost--if the poster who made that post has a comment he may repost the comment but NOT that list again.

 

[Freebird]

I believe the Kirby proposal come out in 2007 as a comprehensive contract offer. The company has said it cannot afford a DL type contract, but the Kirby is still on the table. The westies are screaming for a contract, the Kirby is all that is available right now, so again, would you support putting out for a vote as is? Very simple really and you didn't state if we should put it out for a vote.

i wouldn't say the West Pilots are screaming for a contract. Rather, we'd like to move this process forward. Usapa has accomplished NOTHING.

Why is Cleary and his cronies afraid of getting us a contract to vote on? (Because he's afraid it will pass, perhaps?)

Or, have we not given Seham enough money yet? Guys, (East) you are NOT going to get DOH or DOH with C/Rs.

We need each other to move forward against management.

 

[cubfan]

Well it looks like I will be out of commision for a while. I offically punched out today on long term sick, which I think will be followed by LTD. I was told last week that I have myelofibrosis, cancer of the bone marrow. I have lost alot of weight, but my spleen has grown 4x the normal size. I hope to get the spleen removed this week or next then work on bone marrow transplant. I truely hope this east/west mess is solved one way or the other by my return. Best of luck to all, and safe flying.

Cubfan

 

[Black Swan]

Well it looks like I will be out of commision for a while. I offically punched out today on long term sick, which I think will be followed by LTD. I was told last week that I have myelofibrosis, cancer of the bone marrow. I have lost alot of weight, but my spleen has grown 4x the normal size. I hope to get the spleen removed this week or next then work on bone marrow transplant. I truely hope this east/west mess is solved one way or the other by my return. Best of luck to all, and safe flying.

Cubfan

Man, I am so sorry. Do you know Carl Carite out of PHL. Same deal. Contact me. You need to get to Little Rock to the Sam Walton Center. Please send me a message so I can put you in contact with him. Beg forgiveness for not being labor related. Here is my labor post. God Bless the West.

 

[Phoenix]

i wouldn't say the West Pilots are screaming for a contract. Rather, we'd like to move this process forward. Usapa has accomplished NOTHING.

Why is Cleary and his cronies afraid of getting us a contract to vote on? ...

Contact John P. to see if he has any of the "Let my Daddy vote" bumper stickers. You might be able to make a quick buck by selling the old stock piles... I don't think the West had a chance to buy them yet.

 

[aquagreen73s]

Cubfan, you've got five diehard Dodgers fans praying hard for you.

 

[Black Swan]

Well it looks like I will be out of commision for a while. I offically punched out today on long term sick, which I think will be followed by LTD. I was told last week that I have myelofibrosis, cancer of the bone marrow. I have lost alot of weight, but my spleen has grown 4x the normal size. I hope to get the spleen removed this week or next then work on bone marrow transplant. I truely hope this east/west mess is solved one way or the other by my return. Best of luck to all, and safe flying.

Cubfan

I think you are in CC's class if what I heard is you. You have his number. If this is not who I think it is, then send me a message. you need to get to Little Rock as it is the best place. My Labor Message, is this- full pay till the last day.......

 

[Metroyet]

Well it looks like I will be out of commision for a while. I offically punched out today on long term sick, which I think will be followed by LTD. I was told last week that I have myelofibrosis, cancer of the bone marrow. I have lost alot of weight, but my spleen has grown 4x the normal size. I hope to get the spleen removed this week or next then work on bone marrow transplant. I truely hope this east/west mess is solved one way or the other by my return. Best of luck to all, and safe flying.

Cubfan

Sorry to hear that. Wishing you the best, cubfan.

 

[Piedmont1984]

Well it looks like I will be out of commision for a while. I offically punched out today on long term sick, which I think will be followed by LTD. I was told last week that I have myelofibrosis, cancer of the bone marrow. I have lost alot of weight, but my spleen has grown 4x the normal size. I hope to get the spleen removed this week or next then work on bone marrow transplant. I truely hope this east/west mess is solved one way or the other by my return. Best of luck to all, and safe flying.

Cubfan

MM

Bad news my friend. Focus on getting better. Lean on family and friends. Forget this place. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

KV

 

[Pi brat]

Well it looks like I will be out of commision for a while. I offically punched out today on long term sick, which I think will be followed by LTD. I was told last week that I have myelofibrosis, cancer of the bone marrow. I have lost alot of weight, but my spleen has grown 4x the normal size. I hope to get the spleen removed this week or next then work on bone marrow transplant. I truely hope this east/west mess is solved one way or the other by my return. Best of luck to all, and safe flying.

Cubfan

Best of luck to you, you are in my prayers.

 

[cubfan]

Man, I am so sorry. Do you know Carl Carite out of PHL. Same deal. Contact me. You need to get to Little Rock to the Sam Walton Center. Please send me a message so I can put you in contact with him. Beg forgiveness for not being labor related. Here is my labor post. God Bless the West.

Black Swan,

I know Carl well as he was in my new hire class. I will be doing my work at the James Cancer clinic at Ohio State Med center. My Dr. special area of study is Myelofibrosis. The James have performed 2500 bonemarrow transplants, and Dr. Devine is the head of oncology and transplant for the whole center. He has published 67 articles on transplants and speaks to groups all over about MF and the current state of discoveries in this field. I feel very comfortable with my treatment center, but I will take the info.

Thanks

 

[cubfan]

To all east and west who have so quickley responded, thank you all very much, your prayers are always welcome, and I feel very strong about the power of prayer, I have seen it work miracles.

Cubfan