US Pilots Labor Discussion 7/28- STAY ON TOPIC AND OBSERVE THE RULES

[Freighterguynow]

If that is true. Why would the west ever agree to be locked into PHX for the next10 years under DOH?

Why would the East ever agree to let you bid East under the Nic ?

 

[cleardirect]

Why would the East ever agree to let you bid East under the Nic ?

Because when these two companies merged that was the intent. To MERGE and integrate the companies not run them separate. Because when we agreed to let a neutral third party decide seniority he said that the companies would integrate not be separate.

Becuase if the company decides that the best use of CORPORATE assets is to move them them we all need to be able to share in that. This was not designed to save the east at the expense of the west.

You guys really need to understand that. This was not a merger to fill up the cash register of a twice BK carrier then walk away.This is a merger and the west has as much right to corporate assets and career expectations as the east.

 

[PullUp]

If Parker is making any money off the backs of the employees, he's doing so with the full compliance of USAPA. They created this mess and handed Parker the Keys to vault. Nobody, (outside of delusional Easties) has a shred...a SHRED of sympathy of any Easties feelings of injustice. At this point, their misery is strictly a product of their OWN creation.

Who Cares?

right back at'cha.

 

[Freighterguynow]

You also have the company involved via the transition agreement and a future hybrid DFR claim.

So, you guys are suing over the TA. The TA that contains the min block hours clause which is siphoning off East flying to artificially support the West.

Seems to me flying routes like CLT - ATL on West metal violates that agreement and needs to stop. You know, all announced flying between points East of the mississippi done only by East crews?

Thanks for opening the TA like this.

 

[traderjake]

Except the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

You're wrong and Kirby said you're wrong at the PHX pilot crew news meeting.

The 9th said the case was not ripe, they did not rule on the merit of the case.

 

[snapthis]

You're wrong and Kirby said you're wrong at the PHX pilot crew news meeting.

The 9th said the case was not ripe, they did not rule on the merit of the case.

Thus the reason we are not worried about DOH. Present the list, make it ripe!

 

[PullUp]

So, you guys are suing over the TA. The TA that contains the min block hours clause which is siphoning off East flying to artificially support the West.

Seems to me flying routes like CLT - ATL on West metal violates that agreement and needs to stop. You know, all announced flying between points East of the mississippi done only by East crews?

Thanks for opening the TA like this.

Sorry, read it again. It only covers east points to europe or carribean, not any other domestic destinations. Conversely, it does not cover west points to anywhere other than Hawaii.
Another resounding ALPO victory in contract language.
Glad to be rid of them...

 

[cleardirect]

So, you guys are suing over the TA. The TA that contains the min block hours clause which is siphoning off East flying to artificially support the West.

Seems to me flying routes like CLT - ATL on West metal violates that agreement and needs to stop. You know, all announced flying between points East of the mississippi done only by East crews?

Thanks for opening the TA like this.

You really need to read the T/A before embarrassing yourself about things you don't know.

It is the company that filed the law suit.

As for the flying east or west of the Miss. Read and understand. Otherwise call usapa and have them file a grievance.

e) The current and announced flying, as of the effective date of this agreement, between points west of the Mississippi River and the State of Hawaii will be flown by America West pilots. The current and announced flying, as of the effective date of this agreement, between points east of the Mississippi River and Europe or the Caribbean will be flown by US Airways pilots. Notwithstanding the above, up to two daily round trips to Europe, up to two daily round trips to the Caribbean, and one daily round trip to Hawaii may be flown by pilots of the other airline.

 

[Phoenix]

Thus the reason we are not worried about DOH. Present the list, make it ripe!

Spend your money bro. Ripeness occurs subsequent to ratification.

 

[cleardirect]

Spend your money bro. Ripeness occurs subsequent to ratification.

May be not. See Rule 60 b.

 

[traderjake]

Spend your money bro. Ripeness occurs subsequent to ratification.

It's costing them less than us as we toil under LOA 93.

 

[Pi brat]

May be not. See Rule 60 b.

Do you give this motion much chance of sucess? Give me the % chance you think it has. Again the question no westie answered: If you are so confident, why all the delays? Let's get it unquestionably ripe.

I just watched the latest PHX crew news. Should be required viewing for all pilots. For the last guy on the pilot one, I'm sorry you were sued in theC18 mess, but that had to one of the most pathetic displays of whinning I've ever seen. "Doug, why don't you like us!!?? Why do you favor those mean old easties?" Pleeze......he should have taken a nap first.

 

[Freighterguynow]

You really need to read the T/A before embarrassing yourself about things you don't know.

It is the company that filed the law suit.

I think I hit a nerve!

No matter, the TA and all parties are now in court - anything's possible.


www.usairlinepilots.org August 7, 2010




USAPA Legal Update

Yesterday, August 6, 2010, the Addington co-defendants in the Company's declaratory judgment lawsuit before Judge Silver in federal court in Phoenix filed a brief ..... In essence, the Addington co-defendants ask Judge Silver to allow the Company to continue to sue them.

USAPA Legal

 

[cleardirect]

I think I hit a nerve!

No matter, the TA and all parties are now in court - anything's possible.


www.usairlinepilots.org August 7, 2010




USAPA Legal Update

Yesterday, August 6, 2010, the Addington co-defendants in the Company's declaratory judgment lawsuit before Judge Silver in federal court in Phoenix filed a brief ..... In essence, the Addington co-defendants ask Judge Silver to allow the Company to continue to sue them.

USAPA Legal

Yep. I dislike ignorance.

 

[traderjake]

I just watched the latest PHX crew news. Should be required viewing for all pilots. For the last guy on the pilot one, I'm sorry you were sued in theC18 mess, but that had to one of the most pathetic displays of whinning I've ever seen.

No, the most pathetic display of whinning was USAPA filing the law suit in the first place.

Men would not have done it, whinny little boys did.