Black Swan,
Seems I stirred you outta your hole. Good. Maybe you can answer for the furloughees, why USAPA isnt accepting the NIC Award? Simple question.
Your leadership agreed to binding arbitration, did they not? Second simple question
And in case you forgot what a merger is...its when two entities become one, sharing their assets. Oh about your new 330, you should bid it when you come of reserve. We'll fly together.
And please, don't answer a question with a question. Your avoidance speaks loudly. Stay on task.
Here is your answer. My answer. I cannot speak for USAPA.Oh, and don't blame guys being furloughed on this. You got your LAS shutdown to blame for them. You just want to pick different ones to dump on the street instead of fixing the whole problem for all of them.......... Why I think we should fight the Nic? Simple. Because it was supposed to follow ALPA guidelines, but did not. Your side got a massive windfall, a deal that is so far off base, it puts a guy like Joe Monda, with 17 yrs. served, behind a guy on probation with your company. He never hit the street. That is just one of the trees that fell in the wind. Another, and I think we can go with this. I think your side will scream all the way to the end, but this is it- seniority can be negotiated, or it can be implemented in any manner of ways. I happen to believe, and time will tell, that we dumped ALPA before this abortion ever was implemented. As they say, it sits on a shelf. We never got together in an agreement with you guys. So there it sits. Now I don't take this position just out of the air. I say I looked into it pretty seriously with some people whom, shall we say, have taught this stuff, worked it their entire lives. Maybe I'm off. You might get it. But I say we see what Father Time has in store, and maybe with a few wins of one or two shots, we get some pay restoration. A lot of things can happen with time. One is attrition. Another is a merger. One is a pay increase that doesn't keep the heat on anything or anybody any more. I actually believe, contrary to what some say, that the east group is NEVER going to sign a deal that lets you guys literally cascade on every widebody position that opens. They have been through too much to do that, to give it up that easily. I know some of your boys really believe we are on the verge of collapse. You are seriously wrong on this subject. I really don't care what you, Nic4us, clear, etc. says over and over about a failed carrier. Say it forever.I honestly don't care. It was a crap outfit, and still is.Nothing changed in the last 5 yrs. I am just learning to survive among the wreckage. I vote NO on any deal that has the Nic. I don't care what you say. That is as simple as I can be. I screamed bloody murder when Kirch picked Nicolau, I saw what he did in the past. Another reason why I voted ALPA gone. Pension in the night, merger picks, pay cuts, crappy E-190 rates endorsed by Stephan and ALPA,MDA creation and deception for the junior guy, 95 hrs with guys on the street- on and on. Live to fight another day. No, fight now. So this is it. You asked. I and a lot of others know they can't put Nic in until we get a T/A. I say there isn't even a chance of one from the company. They love it just the way it is. It is very dangerous for your side especially. All alone out there in PHX, with a possible merger coming. Also, how are they ever going to come out with a decent pay offer seeing how disparate our sides are now with the narrowbody? There is no way you guys are going to be happy with what they offer. The only ones who might look at it at all would be some of our guys. I guarantee it is not enough to get the NIC passed. So there you have it. I believe we are going to have to negotiate something better than the NIC, with some big fences, or you get nothing. I am willing to wait personally. So, "your avoidance speaks loudly. Stay on task" means what? Freebird, come now. All you do is have to ask nicely................P.S. You can go on forever about how you feel this is wrong. Let it rest this time. I told you what you wanted to hear. I have heard all the theories of how you should go here, there, wherever. Spare us this time. I think a lot of us are going to take this stand. That is why we have not flown together for 5 yrs. after this thing was announced. Probably why we in all probability will not fly together. Ever. See you on the track. I got a bigass Delta 98 ready for you.
