enough already
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You do realize that the base being closed means w/o pay...bigjets said:So are any DFW mechs getting Christmas off ?
Is Tulsa closed for the week?
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You do realize that the base being closed means w/o pay...bigjets said:So are any DFW mechs getting Christmas off ?
Is Tulsa closed for the week?
its not? i just checked my rate of pay on jetnet and well its not changed.....MetalMover said:Really? By listening to some of the posts here, it seems an industry leading contract +4% is imminent!
enough already said:You do realize that the base being closed means w/o pay...
In TUL you don't get to work just by signing up. Many are forced to take the week off without pay. Many save a week of vacation for the shutdown. Others used Flex vacation for it. Either way the TWU is allowing the company to dictate when we are to use one week of vacation or take it without pay. I have always believed that it should be a total shutdown and nobody should work it. But there are always enough volunteers to keep things going. The base shutdown was the brain child of Gail Ferguson who used to be in charge of base maint. Ed Wilson agreed to it and signed a letter of agreement and then didn't tell anyone about it until the company posted the letter. We never got to vote on it. I can also tell you that you as a line guy have lost absolutely nothing because of the shutdown. I do take the week off and enjoy the time with my family but I still feel it is not in our best interest to allow AA to dictate when we must use a week of our vacation. Most in Tulsa disagree with me though and like it though. I also never agreed with Flex vacation and honestly feel this was instrumental in the TWU giving our vacation away. Too many were willing to buy their own vacation. Now we don't have that either.bigjets said:
TUL can work if you sign up?
TUL can take that week as a week of vacation?
Isn't TUL showing that it's not critical to the operation if it can be closed for a week?
Why would TUL be closed anyway?
What is EVERYBODY giving up so TUL doesn't have to work over holiday week?
If we give up nothing, good for them, enjoy time off, but don't complain about it.
Oh, don't worry OldGuy, the TWU/IAM alliance is going to make it alllllll better...you know, straight in numbers.OldGuy@AA said:In TUL you don't get to work just by signing up. Many are forced to take the week off without pay. Many save a week of vacation for the shutdown. Others used Flex vacation for it. Either way the TWU is allowing the company to dictate when we are to use one week of vacation or take it without pay. I have always believed that it should be a total shutdown and nobody should work it. But there are always enough volunteers to keep things going. The base shutdown was the brain child of Gail Ferguson who used to be in charge of base maint. Ed Wilson agreed to it and signed a letter of agreement and then didn't tell anyone about it until the company posted the letter. We never got to vote on it. I can also tell you that you as a line guy have lost absolutely nothing because of the shutdown. I do take the week off and enjoy the time with my family but I still feel it is not in our best interest to allow AA to dictate when we must use a week of our vacation. Most in Tulsa disagree with me though and like it though. I also never agreed with Flex vacation and honestly feel this was instrumental in the TWU giving our vacation away. Too many were willing to buy their own vacation. Now we don't have that either.
I am terrified at what the alliance is going to do.MetalMover said:Oh, don't worry OldGuy, the TWU/IAM alliance is going to make it alllllll better...you know, straight in numbers.
You forgot about the Paid Holidays she probably gets as well, so she really gets seven weeks of Paid Time off after 15 vs your five after 25.bigjets said:
I told my Aunt who works in a bank that it takes me 25 years to get 5 weeks VC, she said she got that after 15 yrs.
Hey look at the bright side Oldguy, there isn't a whole lot left for the company to take.OldGuy@AA said:I am terrified at what the alliance is going to do.
LOL, dont be so sure!Hey look at the bright side Oldguy, there isn't a whole lot left for the company to take.