The human side of management

[STIS]

Lets just stop this disadvantage BS once and for all. US may not have the revenue from some of the bigger hub cities but they also don't have the overall operating costs of a much larger carrier ie payroll, aircraft, fuel, hub expenses, etc. Sounds like it would be a wash to me. So BS! !

So because US has a cost advantage due to its payscales, they should raise their payscales and eliminate their advantage?

That's some solid logic there

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

I feel for him. We haven't been able to re-model yet... in a recession, like him . Good for him!
He seems to make the money. Wish the rest of us could also share in the prosperity.
Instead it seems like we are the source of this remodel.
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[Phoenix]

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Maybe we can all take a step back and realize that despite how "evil" we think certain people are, they're just humans with normal human lives...

Hey I just saw a clip that spells it all out. I forgot that Doug looked like Steve Martin when he was younger. "It was never easy for me. I was born a poor... "

 

[Travelpro72]

So because US has a cost advantage due to its payscales, they should raise their payscales and eliminate their advantage?

That's some solid logic there

YEP....it sure it. The employees funded the merger and will NOT settle for anything less than MAJOR improvements. Been there, Heard it, Seen it and don't give a fat rats ass what excuses they come up with. The employees are ticked off, tired, over worked and WILL NOT settle. Take that to the bank! The f/a's are in mediation and will take their strike vote. It may not be immediate but the group will do whatever it takes. What you see here will NOT last forever.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

What you fail to recognize? What rock did you crawl out under? Doug sets the tone, he is the final authority, he hires the people that hires the inept people, He is the SLAVE MASTER, (your analogy, not mine) , He doesn't even have the common sense to order a CAB!

Speaking of "the human side of management", take a look at the thread about Gordon Bethune's Facebook posting and the comments he received. Now that is the human side...

 

[STIS]

YEP....it sure it. The employees funded the merger and will NOT settle for anything less than MAJOR improvements. Been there, Heard it, Seen it and don't give a fat rats ass what excuses they come up with. The employees are ticked off, tired, over worked and WILL NOT settle. Take that to the bank! The f/a's are in mediation and will take their strike vote. It may not be immediate but the group will do whatever it takes. What you see here will NOT last forever.

But you said it yourself... Airways doesn't have a Revenue advantage but they're okay because they have a cost advantage.

Surely you can't be so myopic as to think that "MAJOR improvements" won't be the end of US Airways?

Ask United pilots how their MAJOR improvements in the 90s turned out.

 

[Phoenix]

But you said it yourself... Airways doesn't have a Revenue advantage but they're okay because they have a cost advantage.

Surely you can't be so myopic as to think that "MAJOR improvements" won't be the end of US Airways?

Ask United pilots how their MAJOR improvements in the 90s turned out.

Major improvements are simply not possible for any airline no matter how good their management is, and Soutwest will never fly beyond three cities in the state of Texas.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

But you said it yourself... Airways doesn't have a Revenue advantage but they're okay because they have a cost advantage.

Surely you can't be so myopic as to think that "MAJOR improvements" won't be the end of US Airways?

Ask United pilots how their MAJOR improvements in the 90s turned out.

A "human face" to cut rate wages is an oxymoron.
To be human and to act in a humanistic fashion are two different things.
Business is business.
To try a third rate PR make over is to have a naive knowledge of your audience.
You have no provenance and come off as a weak attempt at re-shaping the image of the one person who can alter the working conditions and perceptions of this audience.
Pretty lame attempt.
What is the context of your "interview"?
Did you ask why being the CEO of UAL was so important and may have caused the failure of US Airways being merged?
Did you?
The new acronym for company shill is "STIS".
Let's have a contest! What does "STIS" stand for?
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[crazystnic]

Awww shucks, sorry we can't pay the employees, I need the Italian marble in the mater bath.
what a tool..
this place is imploding around him.

yes the cool aid got to you too.

 

[luvn737s]

Doug Parkers quest since he came to AWA was to establish and reinforce the "new Normal" as it relates to airline labor and what someone's expectations should be for a career at an airline. The legacy mindset of high wages and relatively low productivity evaporated with the onset of internet ticket distribution. It took an industry with razor thin margins in good times and slashed them to the point that they struggle to price their product even a few cents above costs. They roll out bag fees because they are "below the line" items that currently don't impact the posted fare at sites like travelocity,etc.

Does he do that because he knows that the industry's pricing model can't sustain wages anywhere close to where they were, or because he's a rank opportunist that will do whatever he can get away with. Probably a little of both.

We have watched as the tide has raised many of the fortunes of our competitors, yet we are firmly chained to the bottom, courtesy of the current pilot's union. There are some small incremental gains to be had, but witht he current crew, even that remains elusive.

 

[Phoenix]

Doug Parkers quest since he came to AWA was to establish and reinforce the "new Normal" as it relates to airline labor and what someone's expectations should be for a career at an airline. The legacy mindset of high wages and relatively low productivity evaporated with the onset of internet ticket distribution. It took an industry with razor thin margins in good times and slashed them to the point that they struggle to price their product even a few cents above costs. They roll out bag fees because they are "below the line" items that currently don't impact the posted fare at sites like travelocity,etc.

Does he do that because he knows that the industry's pricing model can't sustain wages anywhere close to where they were, or because he's a rank opportunist that will do whatever he can get away with. Probably a little of both.

We have watched as the tide has raised many of the fortunes of our competitors, yet we are firmly chained to the bottom, courtesy of the current pilot's union. There are some small incremental gains to be had, but witht he current crew, even that remains elusive.

Doug is a beacon that shines in the darkness. If we (the labor) would all just practice doing more with less then we (the magicians and alchemists) could be working less and getting more. But alas we are all chained to the bottom because of our lack of faith in the misunderstood and under-appreciated oracle.

 

[ChockJockey]

Awww shucks, sorry we can't pay the employees,

Who's not getting paid? Is US having trouble making payroll?

I need the Italian marble in the mater bath.
what a tool..

In America, people are allowed to spend their money as they wish.

this place is imploding around him.

How so? US has been "imploding" ever since I've started, and long before from what I've read here. I'd imagine a good number of you must be getting really frustrated as much as you keep wishing and predicting US keels over and yet contrary to fate and good sense it just refuses to happen...

yes the cool aid got to you too.

Grow up. Everybody's drinking somebody's kool-aid these days, the only difference is the flavor.

 

[ChockJockey]

YEP....it sure it. The employees funded the merger and will NOT settle for anything less than MAJOR improvements. Been there, Heard it, Seen it and don't give a fat rats ass what excuses they come up with. The employees are ticked off, tired, over worked and WILL NOT settle. Take that to the bank! The f/a's are in mediation and will take their strike vote. It may not be immediate but the group will do whatever it takes. What you see here will NOT last forever.

The funny things is I can see reading this exact post five years from now from the same poster in these same forums...

 

[767one]

So because US has a cost advantage due to its payscales, they should raise their payscales and eliminate their advantage?

That's some solid logic there

The management has put this airline where it is and keeps it there because it works for them. They still get their money and they can turn to the employees and say "we can't afford to pay you as much as your peers at other airlines because you're unique". This place has become a haven for those who just want to suck the life out of the employees.

Regards,


Bob

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Doug Parkers quest since he came to AWA was to establish and reinforce the "new Normal" as it relates to airline labor and what someone's expectations should be for a career at an airline. The legacy mindset of high wages and relatively low productivity evaporated with the onset of internet ticket distribution. It took an industry with razor thin margins in good times and slashed them to the point that they struggle to price their product even a few cents above costs. They roll out bag fees because they are "below the line" items that currently don't impact the posted fare at sites like travelocity,etc.

Does he do that because he knows that the industry's pricing model can't sustain wages anywhere close to where they were, or because he's a rank opportunist that will do whatever he can get away with. Probably a little of both.

We have watched as the tide has raised many of the fortunes of our competitors, yet we are firmly chained to the bottom, courtesy of the current pilot's union. There are some small incremental gains to be had, but witht he current crew, even that remains elusive.

So why such disgusting relationships with the F/A's?, or that generous contract? offer, oh you blame the pilot's union? And how about the FUMES problems in the boeing's,blame your lottery ticket problem on the pilots all you want because you know DOUG has got you right where he want's you, SOTHWEST just say it, now that is a real management team!