BuffaloJoe
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Piling on a persons personal life should be off limits
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sky high states: What CEO in the past 25 years has suffered any consequences by the way they have run this company? Colodny? Schofield? Wolf? Gangwal? etc..etc. Havent ALL OF THEM walked away with MILLIONS without showing any empathy to how that money was earned? (employees)
Isnt it any wonder why employees are critical of yet, another CEO, who pocketed millions, and seems to be making mistakes, both professionally and now, personally?
Alcoholism is very prevalent in this industry. It's shocking to finally see a CEO, held accountable by their actions. Maybe this needed to happen. Dave's young, under great pressure, running a multi-billion dollar company in his forties. Boy Wonder found out this week, he's human.
I hope he gets HELP.
only stating opinions.
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I also hope he will take responsiblity & get help.
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USA320Pilot
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Michael707767, Wildirishrose, & Phlfa88,
Michael707767 said: Kick people when they are down? Hey Delta, we are going to buy some of your South America routes. Hey Delta, now we are going to buy you, get a DOH merger to take all your widebody seats. But don't worry if that doesn't work, Delta you are going to be fragmented. Oh and if you aren't fragmented, you have a plan that is bound to fail. Of all the people on this forum, you are the last one who should be talking to us about kicking people when they are down.
USA320Pilot comments: Michael, that is not "kicking somebody when they're down – it’s the facts. US Airways negotiated to buy some of Delta's South American routes and when that failed they went to buy the “whole enchiladaâ€, which was told to me by a senior ALPA official and then later it came to me from a Chief Pilots office. As far as the fragmentation, that was discussed too, which is another reason why Delta fought such a furious battle. In regard to seniority list integrations, what do you think the DALPA MEC would have tried to do to the US Airways pilots? In regard to not merging and failing it was not me who said that but Forbes and If I remember correctly the Motley Fool.
The issue you here is that it is not kicking somebody when they're down, but instead you do not like the news, the facts, or when I post information it then becomes true.
With all due respect, my comments are reality and you simply did not like the message, which I understand.
Wildirishrose said: "What a bunch of vultures! These negative posts have nothing to do with Doug Parker, they have to do with each individual person's own issues and personalities. What's going on in your own lives that you have to be so angry and unsupportive of the man who signs your paychecks?"
USA320Pilot comments: Great post and dead-on accurate.
Phlfa88 said: “And How Many Times Have You Having Your Share Of Drinks In Your FC Seat Got In Your or A Car And Driven?â€
USA320Pilot comments: Great comment and post. That goes not only for customers, but employees too!
Regards,
USA320Pilot
Michael707767 said: Kick people when they are down? Hey Delta, we are going to buy some of your South America routes. Hey Delta, now we are going to buy you, get a DOH merger to take all your widebody seats. But don't worry if that doesn't work, Delta you are going to be fragmented. Oh and if you aren't fragmented, you have a plan that is bound to fail. Of all the people on this forum, you are the last one who should be talking to us about kicking people when they are down.
USA320Pilot comments: Michael, that is not "kicking somebody when they're down – it’s the facts. US Airways negotiated to buy some of Delta's South American routes and when that failed they went to buy the “whole enchiladaâ€, which was told to me by a senior ALPA official and then later it came to me from a Chief Pilots office. As far as the fragmentation, that was discussed too, which is another reason why Delta fought such a furious battle. In regard to seniority list integrations, what do you think the DALPA MEC would have tried to do to the US Airways pilots? In regard to not merging and failing it was not me who said that but Forbes and If I remember correctly the Motley Fool.
The issue you here is that it is not kicking somebody when they're down, but instead you do not like the news, the facts, or when I post information it then becomes true.
With all due respect, my comments are reality and you simply did not like the message, which I understand.
Wildirishrose said: "What a bunch of vultures! These negative posts have nothing to do with Doug Parker, they have to do with each individual person's own issues and personalities. What's going on in your own lives that you have to be so angry and unsupportive of the man who signs your paychecks?"
USA320Pilot comments: Great post and dead-on accurate.
Phlfa88 said: “And How Many Times Have You Having Your Share Of Drinks In Your FC Seat Got In Your or A Car And Driven?â€
USA320Pilot comments: Great comment and post. That goes not only for customers, but employees too!
Regards,
USA320Pilot
Dog Wonder
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The thread you started to convince people not to pile on didn't work.
It only added seven more pages of piling on, minus the small minority who so ineptly agree with you.
longing4piedmont
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Pot, Kettle, Black....
I'm sorry I must have missed that post. Could you repost it.
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USA320Pilot
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Dogwonder,
You're right. It serves no useful purpose to kick a man when he is down. I'm not going to get into a religous discussion, but God is watching and constantly forgives us for our mistakes; as well as those who are hypocrites.
It's amazing how the same ol' people who bash the company over-and-over and cannot get over they industries secular change seem to get true joy over this.
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USA320Pilot
You're right. It serves no useful purpose to kick a man when he is down. I'm not going to get into a religous discussion, but God is watching and constantly forgives us for our mistakes; as well as those who are hypocrites.
It's amazing how the same ol' people who bash the company over-and-over and cannot get over they industries secular change seem to get true joy over this.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
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Amazing how the company cheerleader cant accept the fact his idol is a three time soon to be fourth convicted DUI/Alcohol incidents.
He was representing US Airways as its CEO at the FBR.
No matter how you spin it, he screwed up not once but four times.
First step is denial, get over that and you will see the light.
He was representing US Airways as its CEO at the FBR.
No matter how you spin it, he screwed up not once but four times.
First step is denial, get over that and you will see the light.
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700UW,
It is not cheerleading, it's called empathy, which a person like you clearly cannot understand.
But, that is o.k. because God is watching you.
Meanwhile, it is nonsensical to compare college decisions and life in a persons 20's to his mid 40's.
By the way, did you ever make a serious error in judgement?
A collegue of mine made a good point when he siad, "A book I really like a lot says something about letting he who is without guilt throw the first stone!â€
Separately, it is my understanding you're an ex US Airways employee who burned all of their sick time without being sick before leaving. Is that true? If it is, is that honest?
Moreover, why do you spend so much time on this messsage board never posting anything positive with no, zero, nada, association with US Airways? Are we a little bitter and angry? When would now be a good time to mvoe on?
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USA320Pilot
It is not cheerleading, it's called empathy, which a person like you clearly cannot understand.
But, that is o.k. because God is watching you.
Meanwhile, it is nonsensical to compare college decisions and life in a persons 20's to his mid 40's.
By the way, did you ever make a serious error in judgement?
A collegue of mine made a good point when he siad, "A book I really like a lot says something about letting he who is without guilt throw the first stone!â€
Separately, it is my understanding you're an ex US Airways employee who burned all of their sick time without being sick before leaving. Is that true? If it is, is that honest?
Moreover, why do you spend so much time on this messsage board never posting anything positive with no, zero, nada, association with US Airways? Are we a little bitter and angry? When would now be a good time to mvoe on?
Regards,
USA320Pilot
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I disagree with you on this one. He was not on company property. He was at a country club (where people often drink). If Mr. Parker had consumed alcohol in the boardroom and then got behind the wheel, your point would be a valid one...
Exactly...and what I would call a public relations blunder. The latter part of your statement would have been a much better course of action...
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I have empathy, but not for a drunk driver who put himself, his passengers and other motorists at risk.
I can see making a mistake one time, but not four.
But I guess you can't realize the magnitude of FOUR Times, not once.
And God has nothing to do with watching me, I could care less.
This is about something very foolish a CEO who was representing his company at a golf event did.
And to add insult to injury he tried to sweep it under the rug until the press aka the Smoking Gun got ahold of it like all the other media sources in this country and dug into his past which showed three prior convictions.
Go ask my Dr who provided medical proof as to why I was out, which the company accepted, but once again you try to attack me and deflect the issue at hand, it is not what I did, it is what the drunk doogie did, but hey nice try, but it did not work.
Last time I checked anyone can post on this board, two I have family and friends who still work for US, good friends who are IAM reps, but what concern is it to you? Why don't you actually get your head out from the company's rear end and accept the reality of what happened, instead of being a cheerleader, just like your flip flop on Dave Siegel, you cant even stand up for your own convictions, oh wait, you dont have any. You are not even smart enough to realize you were used. But hey you own union told you that.
Jamake,
Ask the phl22 who were not on company property and they were terminated for their behavior, the company rules are if you are representing US Airway and even if you are not you can be terminated for behavior outside of work.
Sounds habitual to me.
He screwed up and should be held accountable like every other employee in this company.
I can see making a mistake one time, but not four.
But I guess you can't realize the magnitude of FOUR Times, not once.
And God has nothing to do with watching me, I could care less.
This is about something very foolish a CEO who was representing his company at a golf event did.
And to add insult to injury he tried to sweep it under the rug until the press aka the Smoking Gun got ahold of it like all the other media sources in this country and dug into his past which showed three prior convictions.
Go ask my Dr who provided medical proof as to why I was out, which the company accepted, but once again you try to attack me and deflect the issue at hand, it is not what I did, it is what the drunk doogie did, but hey nice try, but it did not work.
Last time I checked anyone can post on this board, two I have family and friends who still work for US, good friends who are IAM reps, but what concern is it to you? Why don't you actually get your head out from the company's rear end and accept the reality of what happened, instead of being a cheerleader, just like your flip flop on Dave Siegel, you cant even stand up for your own convictions, oh wait, you dont have any. You are not even smart enough to realize you were used. But hey you own union told you that.
Jamake,
Ask the phl22 who were not on company property and they were terminated for their behavior, the company rules are if you are representing US Airway and even if you are not you can be terminated for behavior outside of work.
Sounds habitual to me.
He screwed up and should be held accountable like every other employee in this company.
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well, was (1) it a company sponsored event; and (2) he there as the face of US? If so, your analysis is wrong IMMHO
by the way, my place of employment isn't zero tolerance. we realize everyone makes mistakes...whether it is the head of the business or a file clerk. you need to be prepared to be treated the same way you treat your employees...in this case, he and the rest of of his team treat the employees (and customers) with little respect and oftentimes contempt. oh well...
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Oh brother! When is "now" a good time to turn off your computer?
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