TEAMSTERS vs IAMAW questions from the voters mechs and related

[AIRWOMAN]

Like I said, you are not a union member at US so you are not entilted to the contract, now are you?

Go ask Al,see what he says?

This is copied from another thread.

Which way is it 700? We are ONE company and fall under the IAM. Then every employee, union or about to be, should be "issued" a copy of the contract. But then again, we don't all fall under the IAM since the existing unions stay until............you know the rest of the story.



700UW Today, 07:53 PM Post #4

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It is apparent you have no idea what Single Carrier Status means, do you?

Single carrier status means they are one company and they all fall under the IAM.

 

[700UW]

Look who is talking the self-proclaimed know it all about unions, airlines, labor-management and everything esle. When truth be known, you are not an union member, airline employee nor have anything to do with labor management relationship at US.

Amazing how you have to comment on everything when you know virtually nothing about it.

 

[INSP17]

Hey 700 you might need to read your contract just a bit closer! ARTICLE 17 (YES I DO HAVE A COPY) TITLED GENERAL AND MISCELLANEOUS ON PAGE 71 ITEM (P) and I quote" THIS AGREEMENT MAY NOT BE AMENDED OR SUPPLEMENTED EXCEPT BY A WRITTEN LETTER OF AGREEMENT SIGNED BY BOTH THE VICE PRESIDENT OF LABOR RELATIONS OR HIS DESIGNEE ON BEHALF OF THE COMPANY AND A GENARAL CHAIRMAN OR HIS DESIGNEE ON BEHALF OF THE IAM"

Wow that says alot about your contract, IT ISN'T WORTH THE PPAPER IT'S PRINTED ON, when one menber from the company and one from the IAM can get together say this part of the contract just don't work for us let's write up an ammenment and there you go no vote, no put to the members, nothing just a new ruling stuffed down your throuht.

Which is apparently been happening alot by the volumes of amenments you have to your contract, so whats one more to farm out the 190 work by the looks of your contract the companys half way there!!

 

[Awa Contract]

Gee Airwoman now you know why I say that if we can't be Teamsters then decertification is the best alternative. I put up with this type of IAM BS for five years then I found a way to do my job without thier knife in my back and thier useless hand in my pocket.

 

[700UW]

How many times are you going to post misinformation about article 17?

It has been posted that the company or the union cannot change the contract unilaterily.

That is for clarification of the contract.

Guess you do not know what Status Quo under the RLA means do you?

Keep trying.

 

[EricLv2Fish]

How many times are you going to post misinformation about article 17?

It has been posted that the company or the union cannot change the contract unilaterily.

That is for clarification of the contract.

Guess you do not know what Status Quo under the RLA means do you?

Keep trying.

Howabout bilateral changes? If the IBT wins out a new contract will be negotiated....you can take that to the bank.

 

[700UW]

Howabout bilateral changes? If the IBT wins out a new contract will be negotiated....you can take that to the bank.

Funny US says differant and a change in representation does not give the union the right to renegotiate the contract.

And mr know it all, the union cannot sign an amendment to the contract without membership ratification. Once again you have no idea on what goes on.

 

[700UW]

Wow a 50 year old man show how much lack of maturity he has.

Like I said, you think you know it all and you know nothing.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Funny US says differant and a change in representation does not give the union the right to renegotiate the contract.

And mr know it all, the union cannot sign an amendment to the contract without membership ratification. Once again you have no idea on what goes on.

Does a change in representation preclude the new union from negotiating a new contract?? And if there's enough transition agreements, it may as well be a new contract. I can't say for sure, but I would doubt it. That would be just plain dumb.

 

[smorzando]

Wow a 50 year old man show how much lack of maturity he has.

Like I said, you think you know it all and you know nothing.

That guy's life is these boards as pathetic as that is. He gets all his needs, ever last one posting on here and blasting the IAM. He has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the IAM but that doesn‘t matter because that‘s what makes him tick, sick as that is. Like a parasite feeding off other peoples life, because he has none.

The funny thing here is everyone is going to screw around and end up with NO union and watch their jobs being shipped far south, then they will really be pissed and of course it will be the IAM's fault, not their own moronic thought processes.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Gee Airwoman now you know why I say that if we can't be Teamsters then decertification is the best alternative. I put up with this type of IAM BS for five years then I found a way to do my job without thier knife in my back and thier useless hand in my pocket.

Your point is becoming clearer and clearer as the days pass. Funny, my uncle was under the IAM many, many years ago.......they ditched out as soon as they could and changed representation. No, not airline but operating engineers. Guess it's still the same........some things never change........according to what he told me.

 

[barbeetantrums]

BTW I'm 51! Don't let facts get in your way.

Oh my gawd! You're morphing into 700!

 

[gonzo]

Look who is talking the self-proclaimed know it all about unions, airlines, labor-management and everything esle. When truth be known, you are not an union member, airline employee nor have anything to do with labor management relationship at US.

Amazing how you have to comment on everything when you know virtually nothing about it.

Hey PineyBob,
Thanks for you input. It's always good to get a different perspective. Keep up the good work.

 

[INSP17]

The IAM is in it for the IAM as well as YOUR DUES MONEY! Nothing more. They proved that with the fear and intimidation of the TWU. Potential is strong that it backfired. To my knowledge no formal attempt by the IAM to get these guys jobs back. Perhaps they signed an "Amendment" without members knowing it and that's why no criminal charges possibly in exchance for no challenge by the IAM.


Bob How right you are it doesn't matter if your IBT,IAM, TWU etc you are just a DUES PAYING NUMBER that is itnone of the unions could really give a damn about you except for one day a month, the day they collect your dues!!
But 700 and Dell to an extent just don't seem to catch this fact.

Oh 700 before you start yes I was under the IAM at on time while at TWA as they closed it down and the IAM said they did thier best to protect us as they made a deal with AMERICAN and stabbed us all in the back!

 

[INSP17]

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How many times are you going to post misinformation about article 17?

It has been posted that the company or the union cannot change the contract unilaterily.

That is for clarification of the contract.

Guess you do not know what Status Quo under the RLA means do you?

Keep trying.

Well it still reads the same no matter how many times you read it, yes I do know the RLA but explain to me how you ended up with so many amendments if there where no unilateral agreements going on? Your saying each and every one was put before you and the membership? It would take an additional 5 year on that many amemdments. Dude you must have one hell of a flower garden at home with all the bull you been sling around!