Teamsters filed at USAir for representation

[TRAVIS]

Travis,

You didnt post anything that shows that flier is false.

I just called you are Lire prove me wrong.
All you have to do is post a link and you can't...................

 

[700UW]

I just called you are Lire prove me wrong.
All you have to do is post a link and you can't...................

I posted the flier that was recieved yesterday, you prove its wrong, you are the one who claimed its a fraud, yet you havent posted any information to prove its a fraud.

By the way, its spelled Liar, not "Lire" but you should be use to lies, thats all the ibt spreads.

 

[TRAVIS]

I posted the flier that was recieved yesterday, you prove its wrong, you are the one who claimed its a fraud, yet you havent posted any information to prove its a fraud.

By the way, its spelled Liar, not "Lire" but you should be use to lies, thats all the ibt spreads.

Ok 700 thanks for the spell ck. LIAR!
Post your link as I did.
We called the IBT and they said this is not a IBT Flier!
As I said my IAM Shop Steward handed me a copy and said it was from the IAM.

HERE ARE THE IBT WEB CAMPAIGN INFO. ON SENIORITY AT BOTH AA AND US..

US IBT WEB..
http://www.teamster....ction_Flier.pdf

http://www.teamster....er_12-20-12.pdf

AA IBT WEB

http://www.teamster....ction_flier.pdf

http://www.teamster....A_Mechanics.pdf

http://www.teamster....ndEquitable.pdf

What's Up 700 The IAM Have To Write It's On Lies On Fliers Now And Make Them Look Like They Came From The IBT.....

Have A Nice IBT Day..

 

[Anomaly]

I posted the flier that was recieved yesterday, you prove its wrong, you are the one who claimed its a fraud, yet you havent posted any information to prove its a fraud.

By the way, its spelled Liar, not "Lire" but you should be use to lies, thats all the ibt spreads.

Liar

 

[Anomaly]

Speaking of lies: If you didn't get it the first time;
Wrong again Travis. ibt DID NOT set the bar for wages at SWA. They did in fact keep us at the bottom of the pay scales for decades. Then along came AMFA at NWA who is the real reason we make what we make currently. AMFA set the new and improved wages in the airline industry period. Yes the ibt was our representational union at the time we received our rather large increases, however, it was tied directly to the wages AMFA got the NWA mechanics as they were used in nego's by the nego cmte. The only bar set by the ibt at SWA was the bottom of the pay scales for decades until AMFA won the industry leading wages at NWA. Now that is fact...

ANOTHER LIE DUDE.

According to the the IBT negotiated agreement for Southwest Mechanics in effect August 16, 2001 to August, 16 2005;

Mechanics with at least 12 years were paid base rate $32.00 plus $1.30 longevity plus $4.00 for an A&P license ($6.00 if you also have an avionics certificate) plus 100% profit sharing what ever that turned out to be. You were making at least $37.30 which was most definitely industry leading with the Teamster negotiated agreement.

In contrast, a table I found from 2009 has the all in rates (base, license, longevity, skill) for equivalent top earners at several airlines;

UA - $31.69 Air Tran - $34.58 AA- $32.75 CO - $32.84 Delta - $31.81 US - $30.88

By this same year, Southwest was up to $41.32 (with increases paid for by outsourcing maintenance to El Salvador).

How can you argue that the IBT did not create industry leading wages at WN?? You and UPS have always been on top. Everyone knows that (to use one of your favorite phrases).

You claim that the IBT looked to NWA mechanics represented by amfa as a model and point of inspiration? Are you sure you want to make that claim? After all, because of amfa the union mechanics at NWA were replaced by workers willing to take pennies to the dollar.

 

[700UW]

The flier came out of AA from JFK and ORD, no US Maintenance in either of those stations.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

ANOTHER LIE DUDE.

According to the the IBT negotiated agreement for Southwest Mechanics in effect August 16, 2001 to August, 16 2005;

Mechanics with at least 12 years were paid base rate $32.00 plus $1.30 longevity plus $4.00 for an A&P license ($6.00 if you also have an avionics certificate) plus 100% profit sharing what ever that turned out to be. You were making at least $37.30 which was most definitely industry leading with the Teamster negotiated agreement.

In contrast, a table I found from 2009 has the all in rates (base, license, longevity, skill) for equivalent top earners at several airlines;

UA - $31.69 Air Tran - $34.58 AA- $32.75 CO - $32.84 Delta - $31.81 US - $30.88

By this same year, Southwest was up to $41.32 (with increases paid for by outsourcing maintenance to El Salvador).

How can you argue that the IBT did not create industry leading wages at WN?? You and UPS have always been on top. Everyone knows that (to use one of your favorite phrases).

You claim that the IBT looked to NWA mechanics represented by amfa as a model and point of inspiration? Are you sure you want to make that claim? After all, because of amfa the union mechanics at NWA were replaced by workers willing to take pennies to the dollar.

And once again you flaunt your oh so special brand of teamster ignorance.

AMFA raised the bar for all airline mechanics when they signed their agreement in May 2001, making them the industry leader.

http://usatoday30.us...orthwest-ok.htm

...The Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association said Wednesday members voted 82%-17% for the contract, which will make Northwest's 9,000 mechanics the best-paid in their industry. The 4-year contract will be signed Friday and takes effect May 12. "This is a very important day at Northwest," says company spokesman Doug Killian....

AMFA raised the bar May 2001, teamsters followed in August 2001.

 

[blue collar]

The flier came out of AA from JFK and ORD, no US Maintenance in either of those stations.

There definitely is US mx at ORD. JFK used to have mx, but they were all moved to LGA.

 

[Anomaly]

And once again you flaunt your oh so special brand of teamster ignorance.

AMFA raised the bar for all airline mechanics when they signed their agreement in May 2001, making them the industry leader.

http://usatoday30.us...orthwest-ok.htm



AMFA raised the bar May 2001, teamsters followed in August 2001.

And then amfa sat back and watched as each of their members were replaced by non union mechanics. How many hours did the NWA amfa members enjoy the "industry leading" wages? Nice joke Mr Comedian.

Lucky for all of us, no other union was stupid enough to follow amfa.

 

[xUT]

And then amfa sat back and watched as each of their members were replaced by non union mechanics. How many hours did the NWA amfa members enjoy the "industry leading" wages? Nice joke Mr Comedian.

Lucky for all of us, no other union was stupid enough to follow amfa.

And you wonder why I call you a reamster... LOL
keep up the Razzzle Dazzale

 

[Anomaly]

In 2001, the IBT negotiated a contract at Southwest Airlines giving the mechanics an industry leading and unheard of wage of nearly $40.00 an hour to the top earners by 2005. This was in addition to a generous profit sharing plan. This contract did NOT lead to the eventual death of the craft as with NWA and held strong enough by the end of the term to allow for a further increase by amfa (although they gave up domestic stations in return for higher wages).

Teamsters negotiates strong, responsible contracts that will not have you looking for another job by mid term because the company either folded or entered bankruptcy and hired replacement workers. If you want unrealistic and unsustainable wages, join dream team amfa. They have ocean front property in Arizona.

 

[Anomaly]

Ahhhh xUT.

The one who could not stand the heat but loves to complain finally shows up. How is the web site business?

 

[blue collar]

In 2001, the IBT negotiated a contract at Southwest Airlines giving the mechanics an industry leading and unheard of wage of nearly $40.00 an hour to the top earners by 2005. This was in addition to a generous profit sharing plan. This contract did NOT lead to the eventual death of the craft as with NWA and held strong enough by the end of the term to allow for a further increase by amfa (although they gave up domestic stations in return for higher wages).

Teamsters negotiates strong, responsible contracts that will not have you looking for another job by mid term because the company either folded or entered bankruptcy and hired replacement workers. If you want unrealistic and unsustainable wages, join dream team amfa. They have ocean front property in Arizona.

So in other words... Set your standards lower if you want a job. Sounds like great advice, and how much are dues per month for these gems of wisdom?

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

And then amfa sat back and watched as each of their members were replaced by non union mechanics. How many hours did the NWA amfa members enjoy the "industry leading" wages? Nice joke Mr Comedian.

Lucky for all of us, no other union was stupid enough to follow amfa.

And another typical teamster pathetic attempt at deflection.

You called swamt a liar for citing the NWA AMFA contract in raising the bar for mechanic wages.

You can't refute his statement so now you're making a laughable attempt to try and deflect to the AMFA strike which occurred over 4 years later.

He was right and you're wrong and you obviously lack the integrity to admit it.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

In 2001, the IBT negotiated a contract at Southwest Airlines giving the mechanics an industry leading and unheard of wage of nearly $40.00 an hour to the top earners by 2005. This was in addition to a generous profit sharing plan. This contract did NOT lead to the eventual death of the craft as with NWA and held strong enough by the end of the term to allow for a further increase by amfa (although they gave up domestic stations in return for higher wages).

Teamsters negotiates strong, responsible contracts that will not have you looking for another job by mid term because the company either folded or entered bankruptcy and hired replacement workers. If you want unrealistic and unsustainable wages, join dream team amfa. They have ocean front property in Arizona.

Unbelievable.

With this post you have just revealed just how truly pathetic you are.

After what the industry has been through as a whole, for you to have the unmitigated audacity to in any way infer that it was the NWA AMFA contract that bankrupted the carrier shows the true depth of your obvious lack of character.

People like you are a stain on Unionism.