TA reached for TWU dispatchers and Ops specialists at AA

[WeAAsles]

Try that same strike in front of homeless people under a bridge, or the line leading into the unemployment office.

There are times when a strike is a very justified act and for the better good of all it should be supported. But if a strike means you may doom yourself (and your family) over a cliff, it probably should be given a lot of consideration if that's the most intelligent road to walk?

Whether voted in or not, not all leaders are always right in their particular choices.

 

[bob@las-AA]

There are times when a strike is a very justified act and for the better good of all it should be supported. But if a strike means you may doom yourself (and your family) over a cliff, it probably should be given a lot of consideration if that's the most intelligent road to walk?
Whether voted in or not, not all leaders are always right in their particular choices.

I'll agree to the second part.

I can't highlight text, posting from iPhone

 

[Worldport]

There are times when a strike is a very justified act and for the better good of all it should be supported. But if a strike means you may doom yourself (and your family) over a cliff, it probably should be given a lot of consideration if that's the most intelligent road to walk?

Whether voted in or not, not all leaders are always right in their particular choices.

Weez you are officially deprogrammed. What you said is 1000% correct when I hear guys like Glenn (who I believe has the best intentions) I wonder if they are working in the same industry as me or are they just wearing blinders I have seen union guys go on strike and  be replaced only to have the same union try to organize the replacements. Like it or not a union is a business ant you are a number with them also.

 

[Worldport]

There are times when a strike is a very justified act and for the better good of all it should be supported. But if a strike means you may doom yourself (and your family) over a cliff, it probably should be given a lot of consideration if that's the most intelligent road to walk?

Whether voted in or not, not all leaders are always right in their particular choices.

 Gotta watch the "lemming mentality" especially if you have a family

 

[WeAAsles]

Weez you are officially deprogrammed. What you said is 1000% correct when I hear guys like Glenn (who I believe has the best intentions) I wonder if they are working in the same industry as me or are they just wearing blinders I have seen union guys go on strike and  be replaced only to have the same union try to organize the replacements. Like it or not a union is a business ant you are a number with them also.

Never was "programmed" to begin with. I've read plenty of stories where I think the Union or some of its members made the wrong choice. Last example was those SWA guys on the West coast taking off to go to their "Union meeting" when they were scheduled to work. That situation IMO pushed the leadership to be forced to TA an agreement by the company for their members to consider or those 300 or so people were going to be held out of service even longer than they should have been for obviously listening to ONE person who had a bright idea.

Hence the reason that TWU group didn't recommend the TA either for or against.

For better or worse it forced their hand.

 

[WeAAsles]

I'll agree to the second part.
I can't highlight text, posting from iPhone

So you don't agree with the first part then? Alright let's say for whatever reason after AA posting over 7 Billion and change they wanted to knock us down by 50% in pay, do away with our benefits, and outsource 50% of our work? (Putting you out in the street BTW)

Would you consider that a justifiable reason to strike?

Again there are good reasons to strike sometimes.

 

[Worldport]

Never was "programmed" to begin with. I've read plenty of stories where I think the Union or some of its members made the wrong choice. Last example was those SWA guys on the West coast taking off to go to their "Union meeting" when they were scheduled to work. That situation IMO pushed the leadership to be forced to TA an agreement by the company for their members to consider or those 300 or so people were going to be held out of service even longer than they should have been for obviously listening to ONE person who had a bright idea.

Hence the reason that TWU group didn't recommend the TA either for or against.

For better or worse it forced their hand.

Again "the lemming mentality" not for me

 

[WeAAsles]

Again "the lemming mentality" not for me

Me neither. And I'm surprised if you really know me you would have thought otherwise.

I'm not a blind follower if the person I think who's asking me to follow him might be a complete moron?

Sheeps walk off cliffs, not me.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Here goes and I'll just cover key points. No need to talk about our definitions and bulletin boards.
Compensation- Delta plus 3. Premium positions got increase.
Vacation- added a week back to first two steps. Max still at 30.
Sick- 8 days
Duration- 5 years. Percentage increase 2/2/2/3 %
401k- 5.5 percent
Medical- No change
The rest is dispatch specific, but I'll be happy to answer questions.

Is the added Vacation eligible for use this year?

 

[Bogey]

We are switching over to accrue and use in the same year. So January 2017 they will pay us out on what we accrued this year. Those days would be included on a pro-rated basis.

Starting next year, they will all be available to bid.

 

[AANOTOK]

We are switching over to accrue and use in the same year. So January 2017 they will pay us out on what we accrued this year. Those days would be included on a pro-rated basis.

Starting next year, they will all be available to bid.

So if you have someone who likes taking the first two weeks of January for the holidays, how does that work on accrue for the same year?

 

[Bogey]

So if you have someone who likes taking the first two weeks of January for the holidays, how does that work on accrue for the same year?

Let's say you will accrue 20 days in 2017. You bid the first two weeks in January. You bid based on the projected accrual. If you are going to leave in 2017, you project your pro-rated time and take only those days.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

We are switching over to accrue and use in the same year. So January 2017 they will pay us out on what we accrued this year. Those days would be included on a pro-rated basis.
Starting next year, they will all be available to bid.

Thank You.

 

[Filter]

Just to clear something up in this thread...The dispatcher's TA includes holidays at double time and a half.

 

[Traymark]

Just to clear something up in this thread...The dispatcher's TA includes holidays at double time and a half.

Well, there it is, one item "restored".