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She's in trouble
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NewHampshire Black Bears
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OK boys, Not (quite) so fast.
NH will be a better indicator of what's going on, or what will be going on/forward.
First of, Edwards is DOA, meaning he hasn't got a shot up here.
Second, if Obama wins here(and he could), then we'll ALL see history in the making(He WILL romp in SC)
If Hillary wins here, and my prediction is she will win in a close election, then despite Obama winning in SC(which he will), in that scenario I still like HC's chances.
Like in Ia., NH lets Independents vote in the primary's.....NOT so, in places up coming like NV, and the "biggies" FL/NY/CA etc.
So all I can honestly say, is "sit tight" for 5 more nights, then we'll have a much better picture of what's going on.
FYI,
In 20 years in this very very nice NH town, which is 80/20 GOP, I've never seen so many Democrat candidate signs as there is now, stuck in snowbanks here.
I don't think I've seen "1" Edwards sign, and the Hillary signs outnumber Obama signs 9-1
the signs are NOT put there by roaming campaign workers.
Around here, if there is a sign on someones property, it's because they want it there.
SO....DELL..."12",....Don't POP the champagne cock just yet. Give it 5 more nights
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Those of you who are predicting winners and losers after one primary in a conservative 98% white state crack me up. Get a grip and sit down. It will be a bit till the dust has settled and we know what is going on.
A few things struck me as odd. A black man won by a clear margin in a primarily white state. Young people (I think under 30 IIRC) voted for Obama in huge numbers (they seem to want a different direction than what the others are offering). Obama took the womens vote as well. The thing that truly amazed me is the number of voters. Last I heard the numbers had doubled since 2004. I see this as a good thing for the Dems. The surge on Dem caucus goers was beyond any predictions. It seems that W and his party have woken up the dem party and they will take their pound of flesh. The next few primaries will be a good indication if this was a fluke event or if this is a real trend. If I were the republicans, I'd be really nervous.
A few things struck me as odd. A black man won by a clear margin in a primarily white state. Young people (I think under 30 IIRC) voted for Obama in huge numbers (they seem to want a different direction than what the others are offering). Obama took the womens vote as well. The thing that truly amazed me is the number of voters. Last I heard the numbers had doubled since 2004. I see this as a good thing for the Dems. The surge on Dem caucus goers was beyond any predictions. It seems that W and his party have woken up the dem party and they will take their pound of flesh. The next few primaries will be a good indication if this was a fluke event or if this is a real trend. If I were the republicans, I'd be really nervous.
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It might not be as much of waking up the dem party as it is "shifting" the independents from "across the board" to now dem leaning. We indies make up a larger number these days... and can be a force that candidates will like to align themselves with.
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VERY-VERY true, Lily !!
Which is WHY, I'm trying to REMIND a couple of OLD GRIZZLY BEARS, on this board, to not pop the Champagne cork just yet, because after SC(I believe) then the Indies have to vote a straight ticket.
It will OBVIOUSLY be Obama, or Hillary. I just happen to think, that Hillary can go deeper into the bout, with fewer state victorys, than Obama, before she steps aside.
The B I G $$$ is still in NY/FL/CA. Remember that some heavy duty black folks have NOT endorsed Obama. Charlie Rangle, and AL(love him or hate him) Sharpton, carry a huge amount of black Inflence.
(Rangle endorsed Hillary, while AL is playing it safe(for now).
As I mentioned Earlier, we all will have a better Idea, around 23:59 this coming tuesday evening !
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Hillary has a 500 pound gorilla on her back...she's typical DC inside the beltway and Obama will and is exploiting this...if youth want change and I think they do.....then its time.
If Hillary gets the nod....shes the GOP's best chance for a win as she'll alienate enough to make a difference.
If Hillary gets the nod....shes the GOP's best chance for a win as she'll alienate enough to make a difference.
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Hillary has double digit lead in New Hampshire
A month ago, Clinton led Obama by 7 points (33%-26%), but now the poll shows her with a whopping 36%-22% lead. (msnbc)
January 4
Hillary Clinton 37 percent
Barack Obama 25 percent
John Edwards 15 percent
Undecided 12 percent
(**from the latest suffolk poll**)
A month ago, Clinton led Obama by 7 points (33%-26%), but now the poll shows her with a whopping 36%-22% lead. (msnbc)
January 4
Hillary Clinton 37 percent
Barack Obama 25 percent
John Edwards 15 percent
Undecided 12 percent
(**from the latest suffolk poll**)
Gilding the Lily
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Both CNN and Bloomberg find this poll credible:
January 4, 2008
Sen. Hillary Clinton runs at 35%
Sen. Barack Obama at 31%
former Sen. John Edwards trails at 15%
Gov. Bill Richardson at 5%
Sen. John McCain: 35%
Gov. Mitt Romney %
former Gov. Mike Huckabee trails at 12%
Rep. Ron Paul at 9%,
former Mayor Rudy Giuliani at 8%
local 12 proud
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Precisely....and an Obama win could be their worst nightmare.
