Sandra Bland

[Glenn Quagmire]

SparrowHawk will have a field day with the townpeter.

 

[Ms Tree]

You have yet to address the issue. Do you think it is acceptable for that cop to do what he did?

All he has is insults.  No substance, no argument.  Just insults.  I would not hold my breath for a rational argument.

 

[KCFlyer]

My money was on another dopey meme from Townpete.

Oh well.

Meanwhile police overreach continues unabated in this country...

 
It doesn't have to.  When this kind of crap happens, there is one side that says "if she would have just done what he said, nothing would happen".  Nobody ever stops to ask "what if the cops changed just a little".  They did that in Kansas City.  I'll post this video here, but it's killed threads on other boards because it's a cop that says "I was a part of that problem".  The speaker is a captain of a KCPD SWAT team.  They tried something different....treat people like people.  From traffic stops to SWAT raids.  He describes how things have changed.  It's 10 minutes long, which I'm afraid is longer than many folks attention span.
 
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_29TS6jjsA[/video]

 

[townpete]

All he has is insults.  No substance, no argument.  Just insults.  I would not hold my breath for a rational argument.

 
People come for rational arguments?
 
Since when?

 

[Ms Tree]

 

 
People come for rational arguments?
 
Since when?

 

You obviously don't.

 

[eolesen]

If the woman was blowing smoke at or towards the cop (given her attitude and demeanor, quite likely?), that's considered assault by the courts.

The smoke isn't contained in "her private property" at that point, and is known to be harmful.

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/can-someone-be-liable-for-secondhand-smoke.html

Yeah, I know -- that will drive the Libertarians batshit crazy, but the party line for Libertarians seems to be that that exposure to secondhand smoke isn't harmful to others, and the data supporting it is just made up.

 

[townpete]

If the woman was blowing smoke at or towards the cop (given her attitude and demeanor, quite likely?), that's considered assault by the courts.

The smoke isn't contained in "her private property" at that point, and is known to be harmful.

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/can-someone-be-liable-for-secondhand-smoke.html

Yeah, I know -- that will drive the Libertarians batshit crazy, but the party line for Libertarians seems to be that that exposure to secondhand smoke isn't harmful to others, and the data supporting it is just made up.

Act like a pr!ck towards police, bad things happen. 
 
At least its thinning the heard of idiots.

 

[townpete]

Sounds to me like she was despondent over being left in jail.
 
http://abc13.com/news/sandra-blands-co-inmate-recalls-conversation-before-death/875741/
 
Pyle said Bland was eager to get out of jail as soon as her bond was set Saturday. She voiced her frustration that her friend LaVaughn Mosley, whom she had repeatedly called, never came to the jail to post bond.
"She said, 'He's not answering, it's going straight to voicemail. I don't know why, I don't know why. He said he's going to be here in an hour, and it's days later,'" Pyle said.
 

 

[Ifly2]

How many ways can some excuse anuse of power and thuggery by government agents, and tyranny of that government, while claiming to be fearful of the same?

Let us count the ways...

 

[KCFlyer]

 
Sounds to me like she was despondent over being left in jail.
 
http://abc13.com/news/sandra-blands-co-inmate-recalls-conversation-before-death/875741/
 
Pyle said Bland was eager to get out of jail as soon as her bond was set Saturday. She voiced her frustration that her friend LaVaughn Mosley, whom she had repeatedly called, never came to the jail to post bond.
"She said, 'He's not answering, it's going straight to voicemail. I don't know why, I don't know why. He said he's going to be here in an hour, and it's days later,'" Pyle said.
 
 

 
Now for two questions (that I really don't expect an answer to)
 
1. Did she deserve to go to jail for refusing to put out a cigarette she was smoking on her own private property
 
2.  Did the cop over react just a little bit? 

 

[SparrowHawk]

Something smells to the core on this one. 
 
A gun and a badge do NOT grant extra rights and the real problem is more and more people no longer trust police. Political agenda or not, this is a threat to our very existance as a nation.
 
The average everyday citizen needs to have a police force that is above reproach and thats not always the case today. The Blue Wall of Silence puts everyone at additional rish. Especially the officers themselves.
 
I don't know what happened to Sandra Bland. The mere fact that her death has been questioned is enough. Like I said, Guns and Badges don't confer additional rights.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcWzQOfwEyQ  This is what Liberty looks like, get used to it Barney Fife

 

[townpete]

 
Now for two questions (that I really don't expect an answer to)
 
1. Did she deserve to go to jail for refusing to put out a cigarette she was smoking on her own private property
 
2.  Did the cop over react just a little bit? 

 
What part of acting like a prick to the police, do you not understand snowflake?

 

[Ms Tree]

 

If the woman was blowing smoke at or towards the cop (given her attitude and demeanor, quite likely?), that's considered assault by the courts.

The smoke isn't contained in "her private property" at that point, and is known to be harmful.

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/can-someone-be-liable-for-secondhand-smoke.html

Yeah, I know -- that will drive the Libertarians batshit crazy, but the party line for Libertarians seems to be that that exposure to secondhand smoke isn't harmful to others, and the data supporting it is just made up.

 
Is there any case law to support your assertion that blowing smoke is assault?

 

[Dog Wonder]

If the woman was blowing smoke at or towards the cop (given her attitude and demeanor, quite likely?), that's considered assault by the courts.

The smoke isn't contained in "her private property" at that point, and is known to be harmful.
 

 
 

 
Now for two questions (that I really don't expect an answer to)
 
1. Did she deserve to go to jail for refusing to put out a cigarette she was smoking on her own private property
 
2.  Did the cop over react just a little bit? 

Of course E knows.  He was there.

 

[KCFlyer]

 
What part of acting like a prick to the police, do you not understand snowflake?

 
So when they come for your guns, you'll willingly give them up...right?  BTW....it's not illegal to act like a prick...just look at Donald Trump.