Revoking Your Iam Membership

[Tim Nelson]

It was all about him, not us[/color]
Just helping you get the facts straight, Bob

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Justaramper, your inaccuracies are a joke. Each and every point you made was inaccurate but representative of someone who I possibly have offended. Over the years I have offended many and if you are one of those then I sincerely apologize.

As a side, I can't deny that I have been selfish in certain instances over the years and I accept your judgement there. Certainly I have much to learn. However, I have never been a coward. I'm a pretty much flat out wide open type of guy and whether you agree or disagree with me, I don't hide behind a handle but rather stand behind my name on this board. In fact, it is mindboggling to me why someone has to hide behind a handle unless they have deceitful intentions or can't stand on the truth.

But whatever the case, I can honestly say that this thread wasn't started about me but because of poor representation that happens to model the horrible state of the American Labor movement.
The truth stands! Color me out of this whole thread and you still come up with 'piss clam' representation that isn't worthy of one red cent. And as bad as 700 says the 1990's were....they were much better than where an IAM member is going to be in the year 2013.

2013 IAM member wage will be somewhere around $17 and change as opposed to 1993 non union wages of $17.88....Bring 1993 back!
2013 IAM members at most stations will make close to $16
1993 Non union wages at all stations was $17.88
2013 IAM members get no shift differ
1993 Non union got an additional .51 or .61 shift differ
2013 IAM members pension will be on average about 4% company contribution based strictly on 40 hours and not paid in certain situations.
1993 401k had up to 10% company contribution and paid on all hours, even OT....bring it back!
2013 IAM member has like 20 days vacation but 1993 PPO had 35 days....Bring them back!
2013 IAM member is prohibited from double time
1993 non union person gets double time....bring it back!
2013 IAM member gets unpaid sick time.
1993 non union gets paid for sick days....Bring it back!
2013 IAM member gets only 60 days recall or loses all pay seniority due to 'seniority cleansing'
1993 Non union employee keeps his pay seniority with his full recall rights.

2013 IAM members number around 4,400 with more work contracted out and even current work subject to being contracted out.
1993 fleet service numbers around 6,500.

And lastly the most profane thing is that each FSA has to pony up $4,000 over the next 8 years if they want to keep this piss clam contract with no snapbacks.

700 talks fast but loses and that is why he doesn't stand behind his name but instead relies on a 'handle'.

regards,

Tim Nelson

 

[diogenes]

Diogenes,

I was speaking for mechanic and related not Fleet Service.

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I'm glad the info flowed so freely at 142.

Would that 141 had done half so well, and now, perhaps you have the insight into why Fleet thinks the way they do - that they have always been second-class citizens.

 

[jetmechline]

Guess you cant read.

I said I am utility at the moment, never did I say I was going to be eliminated, I stated I will still be employed under the Mechanic and Related contract.



Never did I say I was going to be recalled as I am still employed and will continue to be employed.


700, how can you say that? In previous post you stated that you would be laid off if the company proposal passed! I think you said no matter what happened with the vote you would be gone.

 

[wings396]

I couldn't agree with Tim more on the poor representation the IAM has given the FSA group. We were all better in the 90's than we are today, and better than we will be well into the future. It was no secret that the IAM didn't really want the FSA group in the first place. Several in the MTC group made this VERY clear to us. Once the IAM figured they could use a few extra bucks in the till, they did the FSA group a "Favor" by representing them. As I said before the first proposed contract was nothing more than the PPG with some IAM signatures at the end of it. At this point in time there are some Non-Union Express carriers that are earning $16-$17 bucks an hour. We pay dues to get less....Something is wrong here, isn't it???
Being a dues paying member of the IAM is like having an Auto Insurance policy that won't give you a dime if your car is wrecked. We pay them to do NOTHING for us, and it is a waste of what little money that we earn anymore.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I couldn't agree with Tim more on the poor representation the IAM has given the FSA group. We were all better in the 90's than we are today, and better than we will be well into the future. It was no secret that the IAM didn't really want the FSA group in the first place. Several in the MTC group made this VERY clear to us. Once the IAM figured they could use a few extra bucks in the till, they did the FSA group a "Favor" by representing them. As I said before the first proposed contract was nothing more than the PPG with some IAM signatures at the end of it. At this point in time there are some Non-Union Express carriers that are earning $16-$17 bucks an hour. We pay dues to get less....Something is wrong here, isn't it???
Being a dues paying member of the IAM is like having an Auto Insurance policy that won't give you a dime if your car is wrecked. We pay them to do NOTHING for us, and it is a waste of what little money that we earn anymore.

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Actually many express carriers make more than you folks, especially the majority of stations that make about $15 bucks an hour. In the year 2013, the US AIRWAYS FSA is slated to be the lowest paid person in the industry, union or non-union.

Air Willy who just became your DIP, paid rampers $19 and change until about a year ago. Think it is somewhere around $17.50 now. Ironically they are represented by the IAM, albeit a different District Lodge. Unfortunately, the only way to have any future hope is to decert representation and lose the contract. Normal situation reversed. Or you just keep the 'courrier service' that has done nothing other than deliver company proposals to members.

regards,

 

[RedOne]

QUOTE(700UW @ Feb 21 2005, 06:07 PM)
Diogenes,

I was speaking for mechanic and related not Fleet Service.

Quote Diogenes reply
I'm glad the info flowed so freely at 142.

Would that 141 had done half so well, and now, perhaps you have the insight into why Fleet thinks the way they do - that they have always been second-class citizens.

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700 this is what amost all f/s agents have been saying. The IAM is a M & R union. Your post backs this up. They apparently kept M&R informed....while they kept F/s in the dark (as they have done over and over and over)

I can't say whether booting out IAM is the way to go. I can say IAM has not really represented nor kept F/S informed. IAM is the bottom of the barrel. (Oh, and yes, I expressed my feeling about the above to my AGC face to face.....didn't seem to bother him either)

 

[Justaramper]

"Timmy"....


Justaramper, your inaccuracies are a joke. Each and every point you made was inaccurate but representative of someone who I possibly have offended. Over the years I have offended many and if you are one of those then I sincerely apologize.

These are the facts, not inaccuracies, as you deem them. Yes, your "past" is haunting you, just like I told you it would. You still like talking out both sides of your mouth, as you have done so for many years. It may have been fun slandering many a person on your cowardly website, but you paid a price for that.

Facts are facts and your problems in the past will continue to haunt you in the future. There will never be a union on this property that you have organized, so give it a rest

The time for apologies has come and gone.....

 

[700UW]

There are more fleet service and customer service agents in the IAM then mechanics.

District 141 represents no mechanics, only fleet and customer service.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

700 talks fast but loses and that is why he doesn't stand behind his name but instead relies on a 'handle'.


Tim Nelson

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Wow you wailed on 700 and he had no reply

 

[midnight cowboy]

AMFA reduces dues at UAL
Think the mighty iam will follow suit?

 

[Tim Nelson]

"Timmy"....
Justaramper, your inaccuracies are a joke. Each and every point you made was inaccurate but representative of someone who I possibly have offended. Over the years I have offended many and if you are one of those then I sincerely apologize.

These are the facts, not inaccuracies, as you deem them. Yes, your "past" is haunting you, just like I told you it would. You still like talking out both sides of your mouth, as you have done so for many years. It may have been fun slandering many a person on your cowardly website, but you paid a price for that.

Facts are facts and your problems in the past will continue to haunt you in the future. There will never be a union on this property that you have organized, so give it a rest

The time for apologies has come and gone.....

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For the record, nothing in my past haunts me because of the grace of God who forgives sinners like me. Onward!
Justaramper, it's pretty easy to stand behind a curtain and not be man or woman enough to step up to the plate and sign with your own name. At any rate, your post didn't offend me so if the moderator is watching I hope he leaves these personal attacks against me on. I find it interesting that you say you stand behind everything you say, yet you don't even stand behind your very own name.

At any rate, your information or lack thereof surprises even me. I will not attempt to dispute all of them but I suppose I should dispute at least one of them to put what you say in question [see Jose Canseco]. I didn't or never have been suspended EVER. Your '5 day' remark is representative of your word. You might want to pick up the phone and call F. O' Don who represented me and ask him to get your story straight. Nuff said.

Secondly, This thread wasn't started to throw unsigned cheap shots on me but rather to extend information to workers who can think for themselves on whether they want to revoke their IAM membership or not. Some will say yes, some will say no.
Let me suggest that you start another thread to talk about me. No doubt there are many who share your opinion. Tell me justaramper, why can't you at least have the decency to sign your name? This board at least deserves that if there is going to be an intelligent conversation of dispute.

Thirdly, you call the IAM a 'bad wife' but your metaphor is shortsighted, doesn't properly fit, and ultimately fails in this situation. But if you want to stick with the 'marriage metaphor' then tweak it to something like the following with 'Genders Reversed':
The worker is the wife who gets treated like a whore by her husband the IAM who also pimps her off to others for 'cheap money'.
I still don't like that metaphor but it fits a bit more than the highly inaccurate 'bad wife' metaphore. Now, in that context, who can expect the worker to stay loyal to the pimp?
Or to put another way, is there anything deserving that the IAM did to keep workers loyal to them?

regards,

Tim Nelson

 

[700UW]

Want to get a laugh? Read this:

http://www.the-agw.org/IAMblows.html

 

[roadtrip]

link deleted by mod

 

[Justaramper]

Timmy..

Funny how you want to use your name {for now}, but were so "afraid" to do so with the Big Picture website. Yes, you served time off and FX didn't handle your final appeal, as we were unionized when an AGC made the call {Chandlee}.

Please keep the religion to yourself, as he knows the truth and it isn't spread by your posts.

Funny isn't it...? Someone using a handle {like you did} and throwing stones at the infamous Timmy Nelson...

But the stones do hurt, as they are all FACTS from the past of the lost apostle "Timmy".

BTW, who did the interview with you on your website...? {Timmy interviews Timmy}

 

[Tim Nelson]

Justaramper, never suspended and that is the truth. But believe as you wish, and I stand behind my name. I find it interesting that you stand behind your comments but can't stand behind your very own name. Who would want that on them?

regards,