Retirees filed to be reheard

[Steve Walegir]

That’s not a bad idea as it would get the money out to the majority of the people it’s owed to in the most expeditious amount of time.

Now let’s see if what you stated pans out?

Of the original 14% that was held back that is the main part of this distribution didn't AA already hold back shares from us to cover our taxes? If yes then it would be easy to distribute through DD our portion of the 14% then separately distribute the gains and figure taxes from there. Should be at least enough money for a nice thanksgiving dinner, should be higher judging by my NYC math I learned but I've also learned from aa to temper my expectations when it comes to matters like this

 

[AANOTOK]

That’s not a bad idea as it would get the money out to the majority of the people it’s owed to in the most expeditious amount of time.

Now let’s see if what you stated pans out?

Yes, let's see.

 

[WeAAsles]

Of the original 14% that was held back that is the main part of this distribution didn't AA already hold back shares from us to cover our taxes? If yes then it would be easy to distribute through DD our portion of the 14% then separately distribute the gains and figure taxes from there. Should be at least enough money for a nice thanksgiving dinner, should be higher judging by my NYC math I learned but I've also learned from aa to temper my expectations when it comes to matters like this

I think I have a pretty good idea how much I’m going to get but I’ve been lowballing everyone who asks me on the Ramp here so they’ll be happier that I was wrong and they got more.

 

[Steve Walegir]

I think I have a pretty good idea how much I’m going to get but I’ve been lowballing everyone who asks me on the Ramp here so they’ll be happier that I was wrong and they got more.

Smart.

If you use basic math it really isn't hard to figure out but I as well are trying to keep expectations low and hope for the best. I know Bob listed the numbers and he has fleet at just over 9,000 eligible but I will for some reason think that's high but then as I said to myself, temper your expectations

 

[AANOTOK]

I ain't scared......I said I felt we would see the money by Christmas, I was laughed at here on this board.
Let's see if that "pan's" out. I will make a bold prediction that on average, most Fleet will see between $1500
and $2500 after fee's, taxes etc... I could be completely off, but there you have it.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Here is a table of a appox. payout based on 80 million, calculation from original formula converted to cash. This is for Full timers years of service up to 11/29/2011

years of service:
1 …….. 2621.81
2 …….. 2659.38
3 …….. 2696.96
4 …….. 2734.53
5 …….. 2772.11
6 …….. 2809.68
7 …….. 2847.26
8 …….. 2884.83
9 …….. 2922.41
10 …….. 2959.98
11 …….. 2997.56
12 …….. 3035.13
13 …….. 3072.7
14 …….. 3110.28
15 …….. 3147.85
16 …….. 3185.43
17 …….. 3223
18 …….. 3260.58
19 …….. 3298.15
20 …….. 3335.73
21 …….. 3373.3
22 …….. 3410.87
23 …….. 3448.45
24 …….. 3486.02
25 …….. 3523.6
26 …….. 3561.17
27 …….. 3598.75
28 …….. 3636.32
29 …….. 3673.9
30 …….. 3711.47
31 …….. 3749.04
32 …….. 3786.62
33 …….. 3824.19
34 …….. 3861.77
35 …….. 3899.34
36 …….. 3936.92
37 …….. 3974.49
38 …….. 4012.07
39 …….. 4049.64
40 …….. 4087.22
41 …….. 4124.79
42 …….. 4162.36
43 …….. 4199.94
44 …….. 4237.51
45 …….. 4275.09

 

[WeAAsles]

Here is a table of a appox. payout based on 80 million, calculation from original formula converted to cash. This is for Full timers years of service up to 11/29/2011

years of service:
1 …….. 2621.81
2 …….. 2659.38
3 …….. 2696.96
4 …….. 2734.53
5 …….. 2772.11
6 …….. 2809.68
7 …….. 2847.26
8 …….. 2884.83
9 …….. 2922.41
10 …….. 2959.98
11 …….. 2997.56
12 …….. 3035.13
13 …….. 3072.7
14 …….. 3110.28
15 …….. 3147.85
16 …….. 3185.43
17 …….. 3223
18 …….. 3260.58
19 …….. 3298.15
20 …….. 3335.73
21 …….. 3373.3
22 …….. 3410.87
23 …….. 3448.45
24 …….. 3486.02
25 …….. 3523.6
26 …….. 3561.17
27 …….. 3598.75
28 …….. 3636.32
29 …….. 3673.9
30 …….. 3711.47
31 …….. 3749.04
32 …….. 3786.62
33 …….. 3824.19
34 …….. 3861.77
35 …….. 3899.34
36 …….. 3936.92
37 …….. 3974.49
38 …….. 4012.07
39 …….. 4049.64
40 …….. 4087.22
41 …….. 4124.79
42 …….. 4162.36
43 …….. 4199.94
44 …….. 4237.51
45 …….. 4275.09

Even though I have zero clue why you keep trying to make these things up Bob? In your calculations you’re forgetting that the calculations needed to include where you fell on the pay scale for the prior year.

I think I would prefer to get my numbers from those who do this for a living if you don’t mind.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Even though I have zero clue why you keep trying to make these things up Bob? In your calculations you’re forgetting that the calculations needed to include where you fell on the pay scale for the prior year.

I think I would prefer to get my numbers from those who do this for a living if you don’t mind.

Up Your’s weez. You don’t think I for got that do ya.

 

[WeAAsles]

Up Your’s weez. You don’t think I for got that do ya.

I knew you forgot dat. Otherwise pretty decent calculations.

 

[bob@las-AA]

I knew you forgot dat. Otherwise pretty decent calculations.

I just figured that at that time everyone in the system was topped out at 21.16

 

[bob@las-AA]

I just figured that at that time everyone in the system was topped out at 21.16

I was a part timer and will get far less than what’s on the list.

 

[WeAAsles]

I just figured that at that time everyone in the system was topped out at 21.16

The majority in the system were but NYC, ORD, LAX and especially here in MIA had plenty who weren’t.

Bob my suggestion. Wait till the “Labor Group” puts out the figures and calculations for this round and then you can back calculate. Otherwise seriously your just going to get people anxious (And pissed off) when they get less than they thought they would.

 

[WeAAsles]

I was a part timer and will get far less than what’s on the list.

Off the top of my head didn’t they calculate you all at 5 hours or was it 5.5? That math you can do giving yourself a rough estimate.

Remember that Mike Mays did say that not all of it would be distributed in the first round. Mainly besides taxes a percentage still needs to be held back to correct mistakes that may occur (People shortchanged, not purposefully)

 

[Steve Walegir]

Here is a table of a appox. payout based on 80 million, calculation from original formula converted to cash. This is for Full timers years of service up to 11/29/2011

years of service:
1 …….. 2621.81
2 …….. 2659.38
3 …….. 2696.96
4 …….. 2734.53
5 …….. 2772.11
6 …….. 2809.68
7 …….. 2847.26
8 …….. 2884.83
9 …….. 2922.41
10 …….. 2959.98
11 …….. 2997.56
12 …….. 3035.13
13 …….. 3072.7
14 …….. 3110.28
15 …….. 3147.85
16 …….. 3185.43
17 …….. 3223
18 …….. 3260.58
19 …….. 3298.15
20 …….. 3335.73
21 …….. 3373.3
22 …….. 3410.87
23 …….. 3448.45
24 …….. 3486.02
25 …….. 3523.6
26 …….. 3561.17
27 …….. 3598.75
28 …….. 3636.32
29 …….. 3673.9
30 …….. 3711.47
31 …….. 3749.04
32 …….. 3786.62
33 …….. 3824.19
34 …….. 3861.77
35 …….. 3899.34
36 …….. 3936.92
37 …….. 3974.49
38 …….. 4012.07
39 …….. 4049.64
40 …….. 4087.22
41 …….. 4124.79
42 …….. 4162.36
43 …….. 4199.94
44 …….. 4237.51
45 …….. 4275.09

I tried using this formula
Originally we had A_0e^{i(kx-\omega t)} and now we have A_0e^{ikx}e^{-i\omega t}. This is just a maths trick you can do to exponential powers and I personally think it makes the differentiation easier.
Does that make sense? My numbers came out similar but also the world will end in 187654 years so there was that too

 

[WeAAsles]

I tried using this formula
Originally we had A_0e^{i(kx-\omega t)} and now we have A_0e^{ikx}e^{-i\omega t}. This is just a maths trick you can do to exponential powers and I personally think it makes the differentiation easier.
Does that make sense? My numbers came out similar but also the world will end in 187654 years so there was that too

Actually it’s incredibly easy to figure out once you’ve read this thesis.

http://schema.lib.cam.ac.uk/PR-PHD-05437_CUDL2017-reduced.pdf