Quills Quotes

[Buck]

On one occasion Mike shouted, "We will negotiate, estimate, mediate, adjudicate, conciliate, mediate or arbitrate---but we will never abdicate." The mayor showed him the door. At another session the mayor suggested a wage cut. "We will never negotiate downward," Mike replied as he stormed out of City Hall.

 

[Thrustfuljet]

I bet Micheal Quill in rolling over in his grave, embarrassed by what the twu has turned into here at AA.

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

"WE NEGOTIATED THESE LOW WAGES TO PREVENT LAYOFFS."

ED WILSON, TWU LOCAL 514 PRESIDENT, SPRING OF 1991

 

[Checking it Out]

So what is your point? Different time, place and circumstances!

Thanks to outside influences the landscape has changed! So? Is 3rd party maintenance what your advocating in order to be competitive in todays open market?

Prince I hear your job is on the block? What are you doing to protect it?

 

[Johnny Lunchbox]

I hear Princess is multi-talented, a massage is in my future!

 

[Thrustfuljet]

So what is your point? Different time, place and circumstances!

cio: if we got to explain it you wouldn't understand!!!

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

Sorry CHUCKIE, I don't do massages, but I'm damn good at ACCUPUNCTURE!

 

[twuer]

"WE NEGOTIATED THESE LOW WAGES TO PREVENT LAYOFFS."

ED WILSON, TWU LOCAL 514 PRESIDENT, SPRING OF 1991

AMFA. . .

Another For Me Association

 

[Bob Owens]

I bet Micheal Quill in rolling over in his grave, embarrassed by what the twu has turned into here at AA.

I'll bet you are right.

What Mike Quill did for the Transit Workers of NYC 75 years ago AMFA will do for the mechanics.

The labor situation in Transit at the time was similar to what we have in the Airline Industry. At the time the NYC transit system consisted of a multitude of competing companies offering basically the same service. The unions representing transit workers were a mishmash of unions that only cared about securing a dues base and organized along company lines, trade lines whatever, but there was no cohesive plan between the unions. Unions competed with each other by helping their company grow by undercutting the other unions. For the members the unions were minimally effective. After years of paying dues to unions that could do nothing for them they took a chance with a small start up union where the leadership was made made up of ex-IRA fighters and communists. Things turned out well for them for many years.

Unfortuneately, as with many things time takes its toll. The Communists were driven out, and the IRA remained. These were fighters who knew real risk, and werent afraid to take it. They were flawed leaders but they did help and lead the members to improved lives. They were just as power hungry as todays leaders but they did not forget the mission, "get more for the members". In their quest for power, they surronded themselves with less able leaders without the same fighting background. They picked soft men, who would not threaten their power. Repeat this cycle a few generations and you have the likes of Sonny Hall and Jim Little. No longer is the mission to get more for the members but to consolidate power. Instead of having the courage to lead the members to better lives, they blame the members for thier own lack of courage. In the meantime they reward themselves financially for their success at consolidating power.

When we leave the TWU, the average wage of a TWU member will drop to around $21000 per year, in the meantime, Sonny Hall will be pulling down around ten times that from the TWU alone, we dont know how much he (or his family) gets in commissions for all the insurance policies he peddles to the members.

When Sonny talks of "us", who does he mean? Is he trying to act like he is one of us? You know, the working class, who have to find a way to pay the bills every month while so called leaders like him keep telling us we must work more for less? Does Sonny Hall sound like Mike Quill, or like the company?


The lesson learned from the TWU should not be lost. We should never compromise the Democratic principles that we seek in AMFA for expedience or "stability". The distancing of the International from the membership that is a fact with the TWU, could happen to any organization if the members fail to police and hold on to their democratic rights. Our Union officials are not leaders, they are the same as the liberal rich who say they can feel our pain as they step on our hands. Just because they can feel our hand under their foot does not mean that they can feel our pain. (The Conservative rich step on our hands and say "quit complaining").By paying Sonny Hall over $200,000 a year he has lost touch with the financial reality that we face, the structure of our union allows him to remain unconcerned because he is not accountable to us. He is out of touch and out of reach.

The only remnants of the TWU of Mike Quill is the logo and the slogans.


When we go to AMFA lets not forget the lesson of the TWU, of how something that was once good and effective can become the opposite.

 

[Decision 2004]

Will Strike if Provoked

United we Bargain - Devided we Beg

Best Workers in the World

Strike Force 2001 - Dead Serious

Aviation Inmate

Don't Lower Wages - Oppose Right-to-Work

Right to work is Wrong

Stop SQ 695

American's Real Strength

Triumph With Unity

2.5 in '95

Sometimes it takes a four letter word to be heard - VOTE

United - Invincable

First Step in the Right Direction

Back to Basics

TWU = SLOGANISM

 

[High Speed Steel]

Will Strike if Provoked

United we Bargain - Devided we Beg

Best Workers in the World

Strike Force 2001 - Dead Serious

Aviation Inmate

Don't Lower Wages - Oppose Right-to-Work

Right to work is Wrong

Stop SQ 695

American's Real Strength

Triumph With Unity

2.5 in '95

Sometimes it takes a four letter word to be heard - VOTE

United - Invincable

First Step in the Right Direction

Back to Basics

TWU = SLOGANISM

Oh Decision 2004 you left out one of your least favorite slogans.

What part of UNION don't you understand?

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AMFA: The YUGO of the labor movement
Where bargaining means YOU GO....!

 

[twuer]

Will Strike if Provoked

United we Bargain - Devided we Beg

Best Workers in the World

Strike Force 2001 - Dead Serious

Aviation Inmate

Don't Lower Wages - Oppose Right-to-Work

Right to work is Wrong

Stop SQ 695

American's Real Strength

Triumph With Unity

2.5 in '95

Sometimes it takes a four letter word to be heard - VOTE

United - Invincable

First Step in the Right Direction

Back to Basics

TWU = SLOGANISM

Oh Decision 2004 you left out one of your least favorite slogans.

What part of UNION don't you understand?

---------------------------
AMFA: The YUGO of the labor movement
Where bargaining means YOU GO....!

. . .or how about this one Dave. . .at least you have a job brother!!



Oh, I just thought of another one. . .
DANGER. . .Educated Union Member!!!

I guess we won't have to worry about you using that one!!!

 

[Decision 2004]

Well,

I think the point has been made and the sloganist appear damn proud of their precious solgans and where the slogans have gotten them.

Let's vote and see what the majority thinks!

 

[Thrustfuljet]

Just had to add one more, "A loaf of bread cost the same for everbody."

K I'm done...........

 

[local 12 proud]

thrustful jet now you know thats one of my favorites, you should not be so self centered. the orange grove pickers deserve as much as you do just because they sweat too, who cares that you take thousands of lives into your hands everyday, you think that makes you worth more? should a brain surgeon make more than a janitor? WELL HELL NO its a very high liability cleaning crappers who knows what you might catch.....satire of course