questions and answers with jeff hayden

[proud2bphilly]

sounds good now all we need is for jeff to say ok jeff?

 

[redeye]

phlfarce,

why ya have to make things personal?

 

[philly rocks]

SOLIDARITY MEANS SOLIDARITY. FOR ONE TO PREACH SOLIDARITY, ONE MUST BE ON THE SAME SIDE AS HIS "MEMBERSHIP". IN THIS CASE MR. JEFF SWUNG WITH THE WRONG SIDE AND BOLDY CONTINUES TO DO SO.

TALK IS CHEAP AS YOU CAN SEE.

 

[jeff hayden]

Jeff,

If the vote didn't show the negotiators how we feel then I'll let you know MY feelings so maybe you can explain it to them. If this is the best they could negotiate then don't negotiate for the East now. We have a date and in order to extend that date one day it will need to be a respectable deal. Negotiate for the West now. Get them better than this BK contract we're stuck with. US is making more money than almost any airline out there and they should not have to settle for this industry low BK crap. I don't feel the need for a transition agreement so don't worry about it. If the company wants it then they should respect the group. If they do go back to the table here are only a few of the things we need. No touching profit sharing for anything. If we make a profit we get a share plain and simple. Freight and mail are ours, bring them back. No class 1,2 cities. Everyone is the same. No 60 day rule period. I want the option to use my sick time for FMLA for me AND when I'm caring for family members. 100% pay for sick time. Real Holiday pay. 1 1/2 and Double time. West Holiday accrual. Vacation accrual was improved but need another week at 25 years. Lock the insurance costs and get rid of the Caremark requirement. Pension improvement now. True double time back, not just 7th day crap. And no negotiating away the grievances. If the company violates the contract they must be held accountable. This is some of the things to take to the table and lets tell them what we want and not let them tell us what we'll get. If the IAM can't get us even close to our peers at both the other unionized and non-unionized carriers then just wait until 2009 for the East and get earning their dues for the West. Were any of these items addressed with the company or just a slight pay raise? There's a lot more to this than just pay.

Hi 727 Every issue you mentioned was discussed during the negotiations but remember the value of the improvments was governed by the value of the CIC. The company would never exceed the value of the CIC because that will be the worst case scenario for them.

 

[proud2bphilly]

be fair, jeff stated his position and he also stated that the membership spoke and he is behind them 100 %

 

[Tim Nelson]

tim can i ask what your position is with the company or do you also have a union position?

I am just a member of District 141 speaking to my brothers and sisters. I am quite a common guy. Parker is much smarter, Canale is much more experienced. But I think I would have some 'usefulness' in such a debate for the masses. Parker can get this done I'm sure.

I have no desire to debate Jeff Hayden for previous mentioned reasons.

regards,

 

[phlforce]

phlfarce,

why ya have to make things personal?

Sorry Buddy :unsure:

 

[proud2bphilly]

thanks for answering tim, are you a fsa, a lead, or are you just part of your local committee

 

[jeff hayden]

After the horrible beating that the "IAM Allstar Team" took with the recent Tenitive Agreement vote it seems to me the membership is totally thinking about one direction and the "Allstars" are looking another. If the ratification had occured we are all sure the snake oil salesmen selling there dribble where in it for themselves. Look at the Salary figures offered for example an AGC makes 98,000 per year nearly 3 times the amount made as a Fleet Agent. All the none AGC's have to have that hanging in front of there face like a carrot on a stick and in there minds thinking if I can just sell this crappy TA to my fellow workers I'll get an appointment to one of these high paying jobs.

Thats why its called the IAM Its About Me!

Jeff
We all heard you repeatedly say you didnt like this section or that sections and you still tried selling this garbage to us. I put it to you Jeff did the smell of a big fat AGC job cross your mind while trying to sell us down the road?

With the overwhelming numbers agaisnt this TA from your station the only respectable thing for you to do is resign you had your shot and you blew it.

Hi Roadtrip, as I previously stated I wasnt happy about alot of the articles in the TA. I thought it was the best choice of the available choices and the least amount of risk.No, an AGC job never crossed my mind, I do this work to try and help the membership, I never tried to sell anyone down the road , I wanted the membership to make an informed decsion and know were I stood, but to make up their own minds what was best for them. thanks jeff

 

[Tim Nelson]

be fair, jeff stated his position and he also stated that the membership spoke and he is behind them 100 %

To be fair, Philly rocks has a valid point. Jeff sez he's behind them 100%, yep, just like he said he was behind them 100% before he brought back his **** **** agreement.

What he sez and does are two entirely separate things. He agreed to trash the CIC, He agreed to collar his membership with two more years of a bankruptcy contract, he agreed to trash the profit sharing, he agreed to give out IOU's, he agreed to 'timebomb' security clauses that may [will] contract out the west coast small stations, he agreed to increasing the wage progression scale by 20%, he agreed to eliminate section 6 negotiations for the west, he agreed to eliminate section 6 negotiations for another two years for the east.

His position is clear.

regards,

 

[Tim Nelson]

Hi Roadtrip, as I previously stated I wasnt happy about alot of the articles in the TA. I thought it was the best choice of the available choices and the least amount of risk.No, an AGC job never crossed my mind, I do this work to try and help the membership, I never tried to sell anyone down the road , I wanted the membership to make an informed decsion and know were I stood, but to make up their own minds what was best for them. thanks jeff

Jeff,

Is it possible that you and Canale's boys will just transition the west under the east agreement without a vote?

regards,

 

[proud2bphilly]

i was in more than one meeting that jeff held. what he says is true. he stated his position quite clearly. he also said that he believed that he should take a stance publicly. after the vote was tallied he also said that the membership overwhelming stated their position and that he supports that to the fullest. Give him your support now. it is the only way for us to be strong.

 

[phlforce]

The IAM was feeding jeff this box of cereal. Its too late now.

 

[proud2bphilly]

The IAM was feeding jeff this box of cereal. Its too late now.

too late for what? its not too late to get on the same page

 

[philly rocks]

"PULEEEZ"!

Give him your support now????

Are you the one that drank all that Kool-aid that they left for him taped on the wall in the fishbowl?
Are you the one who stood out on the tarmac and listened to the solidarity on COC months back?
Are you the one who stood in line in Essington Lodge 1776 and voted YES.

If you are the one, SHAME ON YOU!