PHX ramper(s) purposefully hold back bag and stuff warning message inside

[Edward]

Folks:
GET THIS ON TOPIC NOW & stop going back & forth with each other. Personal attacks, name calling. insults what ever you want to call it ARE NOT PERMITTED. Debate the topic. Do NOT make it about another poster. One person has been given time off. Any one else want to be next.

 

[700UW]

If the IAM condoned tampering with passengers luggage it would leave them open for lawsuits and or charges, it could lead to an employee getting fired also as it is damaging a passengers luggage.

Informational picketing with fliers to hand out or working by the book is the only way to force the company's hand.

You want to inform the public and get US bad press, but in reality most passengers really don't care about the airline employee's plight.

But you cant put an employee at risk of getting discipline up to termination.

 

[WCT]

Not very high I'm afraid. Has Beens don't bounce very well at 53. Yep I'm overweight and over the hill.


Now then Dell you raised a great point in your last post regarding the FBI and fingerprinting. I also agree that inside the bag is not right.

However I think the IAM should consider having stickers printed that can be placed on luggage rendomly. Random being the key word. Sort of like a modern day version of the "Roving Pickets" of the 20's, 30's & 40's.

Maybe put something on it like:

This bag was delivered safely to you by an employee that makes less per hour then your kid does at Burger King!

Or Perhaps this

"The CEO Made 9 Million, I make just over $9/hr, Thank You for flying US Airways"



Well when I helped create FFOCUS I didn't know and still don't know how to start an organization. Sometimes you have to sing it like ya feel it even if it is a bit off key. I just knew that doing nothing wasn't an option for me. So I took action and I never ever thought it would come as far as it did. I was always a "Back Room Deal" kinda guy, not a "Front Man", so quite frankly I did and do alot wrong, however I'm up off my arse trying to make a difference and you should be too. Become an agent for change, somebody has to! Why not YOU?



Put my ego aside? At my age I'd forget where I put it Besides he and I are are old buddies now. I think what I do is positive, maybe not so positive for the Managers in Tempe but for customers and employees speaking out and being heard is a very positive thing and I would encourage all of us here to reach out to our co-workers, friends and relatives to join the debate. There is always room at the cyber debate table.

Great idea! I like the Burger King comparison. Or how bout us fa's leave flyer's in the lav's saying: "This person that cleaned and prepared your lav today was not a cleaner but your flight crew serving you today, Another free service us flight attendants provide with no compensation from the airline." Thanks for flying US!

 

[Hadenough]

There is something here that has been bugging me for years. No where have I seen anything to indicate that said employee opened the bag. Not a day goes by that I don't have to put some passengers belongings back into their luggage. Most of the time the bags come open from poor quality latches or zippers. Sometimes it is because of overstuffing. Lots of the time when it is too full I cannot get everything back inside and then latch the bag. We have no choice but to send it on its way unlatched. When the passenger receives their bag it looks as if someone has gone through their bag. Even if I am able to close it the appearance of the inside looks like someone went through the contents. They really don't realize that they had someone actually looking after their best interest. So next time you hear of someone saying or reporting that their luggage was opened. That might not actually be the case someone might have been just taking care of the passenger as best we could.

 

[BuffaloJoe]

It's proof positive that it is immpossible to have Customer Satisfaction without Employee Satisfaction.

I can not for the life of me figure out why this is such a hard concept to grasp.

All US management cares for is the money in the short term, look for them to utilize their Golden Parachutes soon. It really stinks that the employees are treated the way they are and the Paying customer is the final goat. And there are many employees that go the extra distance, I Thank ALL of the EMPLOYEES! Sure a person can quit and go somewhere else, but it means starting over and the way things are going, is it better to stay and put up with all the crap, or move on and take a chance. If you are in your 20's, the choice is easy, but get to the 40's it becomes a Big challenge.

 

[JoeDirt]

I missed that part of the IAM contract. West is to assume the East bad attitudes and provide reciprocity to the mandatory bag salads from the PHL and CLT hubs? I am sure 700UW can cite the section within the CBA for me.


An informational tag on a bag is a nice thought, but it won't take the Tempe boys long to figure who handled the flight and start asking questions. You see, out in the West, we are expected to read bag tags before they are loaded onto the aircraft, so you might as well sign your name while placing your gripe on a passenger's bag, and hope your IAM actually does something like defend your wildcat campaign. The IAM doesn't do much else... btw... anyone read this month's "Messenger"? Straight to the cat box with that snoozer.

So existentially speaks Jester.

Jester I am almost offended by your statement about the bag salad from CLT comment. Not everyone loads them like that. I load at least 2 to 3 flights a week that either go to PHX or LAS and take great pride in the fact that if I am responsible for how it is loaded I know it will be loaded correctly. Sometimes I take some flak about it and am asked "why do you zone load it it won't come back that way." The answer is I do it for you guys out west. The way I figure it is if I can make things any easier on you then I will do whatever I can do. Its not done because the company expects it. Its done that way for your benefit. If you haven't unloaded one I sent you then check Flt 1101 CLT-LAS on 1/4. Better yet I would love to hear from someone that might have unloaded it. I am tired of the east vs. west mentallity and will do my part to put it to rest.

 

[Black Magic]

If the IAM condoned tampering with passengers luggage it would leave them open for lawsuits and or charges, it could lead to an employee getting fired also as it is damaging a passengers luggage.

Informational picketing with fliers to hand out or working by the book is the only way to force the company's hand.

You want to inform the public and get US bad press, but in reality most passengers really don't care about the airline employee's plight.

But you cant put an employee at risk of getting discipline up to termination.

What about the sticker idea? I dont see any harm in that. Or how about a info. card with a elastic string that can go on the baggage handle? The word needs to get out about this company.

 

[700UW]

Employees are not permitted to tamper with a passenger's luggage.

It is against company rules to put anything in someone's suitcase and put a sticker on them.

You can only attach a bagtag to the bag.

 

[whatkindoffreshhell]

What about the sticker idea? I dont see any harm in that. Or how about a info. card with a elastic string that can go on the baggage handle? The word needs to get out about this company.

How about next time you're in the grocery store I paste a sticker on your automobile windshield?

 

[Black Magic]

Sticker on a bag compared to a sticker on a car is different in the fact that bags have stickers put on them throughout the baggage system and they are very easy to remove.

 

[diogenes]

Employees are not permitted to tamper with a passenger's luggage.

It is against company rules to put anything in someone's suitcase and put a sticker on them.

You can only attach a bagtag to the bag.

Keep playing by the company rules, and keep going backwards.

 

[necigrad]

Employees are not permitted to tamper with a passenger's luggage.

It is against company rules to put anything in someone's suitcase and put a sticker on them.

You can only attach a bagtag to the bag.

What rule is that? Common sense doesn't count as a rule BTW.

 

[flyinawa]

flynawa

"That's the sort of crap I would have expected from the so called "bitter-east-side"

lets not stereo type people, would You like to be called a cactus hugger


once again its not an EAST / WEST thing. it seems the west really enjoys holding on to that.

don't like our culture but LOVE OUR CONTRACT.. can't have it both ways

Way to read the post, DELETED BY MODERATOR

If you read a little further, I admitted I was wrong. What more do you want from me???

geesh.
Moderator note:
Do NOT make this personal unless you wish time off.

 

[orioleman]

flyinawa,
no I don't see where you said you were wrong about what you said. The way you ran it with your other sentence , You indicated that you assumed it was and eastie

person until you found out different then you said "I guess I was wrong"

 

[NCFL]

Compared to what's been done in the past, a note placed inside a bag seems pretty tame.

Back in the day, there was a group of ramp agents in PHL protesting something -- don't recall if they were trying to flex union muscle or trying to express their voice against union XYZ or what -- but they were protesting regardless.

Seems those brainiacs decided they would deliver a powerful message by opening luggage as it came through the bag room, dropping trou, and leaving a fresh-n-steamy inside to greet the customer when they got to their destination. The bag was then closed and sent on its way to the departing flight.

I seem to recall Colodny (or was it Butch?) swooping in and personally firing the people responsible.