PHX ramper(s) purposefully hold back bag and stuff warning message inside

[Black Magic]

Cost Neutral = Effort Neutral

Adding a tag on the outside of a bag is unique idea. That would raise a few eye-brows

 

[Travelpro72]

I am with Boeingboy in a that a tag on the bag would be acceptable. Opening a passengers bag is just crossing the line regardless of how bad things are here. If the company would JUST listen to us and TRY to create some sort of relationship. There is such bad blood between management and employee. If you don't have happy employees your company will FAIL. It's THAT simple. This company will collapse due to the fact that EVERY group is P!SSED off beyond belief. Couple that with this blind no arrogant management and you have a recipe for disaster. Why is it so hard for this management team to grasp the concept?

 

[HPearlyretiree]

You're NOT firing anyone tough guy! You don't work for the flying trailer park any longer and near as I can tell you are part of the reason people form unions.

If US treated their people correctly they wouldn't behave in such a manner. Ever stop to think of that?

Why is it ALWAYS the employees fault? Is there never cause and effect in your world??

Glad I don't work with you that's for sure. If I did we'd both be fired because as far as I know assault and battery is grounds for dismissal at most companies.

Jeezus, you are cooked.

If I caught this guy, he would be out on his ear. If you had an employee sabotaging your company, you would too.

I doubt that management put the note in the bag.

If you worked for me, I'd expect some productivity.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Well thanks for the kind words Mike 33. You have to consider the source. The poster is according to his screen name no longer with HP/US, ergo he is no longer "In The Arena" His views represent those who rather than fight bravely ran away. Folks like him are exactly who Teddy Roosevelt spoke about in his "Man in the Arena" speech.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

I have long felt that I have Spent myself in a worthy cause. I hope that I do not "Fail while daring greatly"

Oh WhineyBob, you are a joke. You never even worked for the airline, and you waste all your time whining about US, and how great a flier you are.

I fought bravely for years, now I make money and do what I want. I work for a non profit and help people and my organization's bottom line is taking care of people. I did the airline biz, it was great fun, I learned a lot. But, I got out and made something with my life. I own my career.

 

[Jester]

flynawa

once again its not an EAST / WEST thing. it seems the west really enjoys holding on to that.

don't like our culture but LOVE OUR CONTRACT.. can't have it both ways

I missed that part of the IAM contract. West is to assume the East bad attitudes and provide reciprocity to the mandatory bag salads from the PHL and CLT hubs? I am sure 700UW can cite the section within the CBA for me.


An informational tag on a bag is a nice thought, but it won't take the Tempe boys long to figure who handled the flight and start asking questions. You see, out in the West, we are expected to read bag tags before they are loaded onto the aircraft, so you might as well sign your name while placing your gripe on a passenger's bag, and hope your IAM actually does something like defend your wildcat campaign. The IAM doesn't do much else... btw... anyone read this month's "Messenger"? Straight to the cat box with that snoozer.

So existentially speaks Jester.

 

[delldude]

I'd fire his ass so fast, he would be dizzy for a month.

No use for folk like that.

You either do your job, or get another one.

Funny thing....wonder if this falls under some type FBI law?

I distinctly remember being fingerprinted quite a number of times for A/P security.....surely Grissom could check the note for prints?

An informational tag on a bag is a nice thought, but it won't take the Tempe boys long to figure who handled the flight and start asking questions.

In it dude,not on it.

 

[delldude]

You wouldn't know a fight. I was a bouncer, I KNOW a fight when I see one. As for "owning" your own career, I too could be a contract Sales Trainer and get paid better with health care in the short term.

Curious....how high can you bounce?

 

[Hey.. Chill Out]

And once again, here we go fighting eachother again. Yeah, we are only as strong as the weakest member and we all look pretty weak right now. somebody decides to take action and then he is criticized for it.

I don't see any of YOU doin anything. Organizing anything. I'm not, I don't know how, I'm just one man, but I'll support my brothers no matter what they do. Kind of like a real family, no? Unconditional love. Maybe we need to respect one another first before the union stops bending us over.

Bravo all of you "elite" business men. Put your ego's aside for a minute and focus your energy on something positive.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

No I was far smarter than to work for arrogant elitests like the current management. I work for a company that ranks in the top fifty in the following areas, Most admired Companies, Best Places to Work & Fortune 50. Lists that US only dreams about. We are the number one in market share and grew 3.3% in a flat market on 13 Billion is US Sales. I personally recieved over $2,500 in performance incentives, plus a profit sharing payout of over $5,000. A far cry from the piddling amount US threw to workers knowing that under the formula the payour would never be made.

You wouldn't know a fight. I was a bouncer, I KNOW a fight when I see one. As for "owning" your own career, I too could be a contract Sales Trainer and get paid better with health care in the short term.

As for working for a non profit all that means is you've found a way to suckle at the Government teet while airline workers along with the rest of us, indirectly fund your salary through grants from the feds via the confiscation of their wages by the IRS.

You're Soooo Republican when it comes to your anti union diatribes. Yet you take a paycheck from the confiscated wages of the very workers you hold in such contempt. Please enlighten us as to how you've resolved that moral dilema?

You can call me all the names you wish however it doesn't change the underlying truth. I sleep with a clear conscience

No, not suckling off the government teet. Nice try though, you have no idea what my company does, most of our operating capital comes through voluntary donations and pay for service contracts.

Wow, I'm impressed that you were a bouncer, really....

You are a joke WhineyBob

Moderator note: This last comment is the final straw & just got this poster time off. There is room for more. This stuff must stop now.

 

[700UW]

Looks like hp needs a trip to the cornfield for name calling Bob in several posts now.

I have met Bob before, nice guy, him and I have had our differences here on the boards but neither of us take it personal.

It says a lot about Bob that he takes his own time and own money to let US employees they are appreciated.

Bob and Focus did more the the employees at PIT Res who lost their jobs than US management has done.

Bob also was invited to Boeing Boy's retirement dinner and spent his own money to fly their, eat dinner and stay there so Jim would enjoy the event.

HP,
You just sound like a bitter ex-employee who hates unions.

If it wasn't for unions workers would have no protections from the abuse of companies.

And you cant blame a passenger for expectating quality service for the amount he spends on travel, US has become nothing but Greyhound of the Skies since Dougweiser took control.

US use to have award winning service and clean planes, this management has lost touch with reality, they have no idea of what the business traveler on the East Coast wants for service.

Maybe Dougweiser and his merry band of thieves need to fly on CO, AA and UA and see how a real airline treats their passengers.

 

[Hey.. Chill Out]

That may be, but No matter what I sound like it doesn't invalidate what I say. You missed the point I guess when you continued to insult me. Bravo.

Don't take my word for it though. Sit here and bicker with eachother while your co workers read this thread. Don't be surprised if we laugh in your face when you come up with a plan to deal with our situation. I want you guys representing me!

Oh and I wonder how it has become GREYHOUND since Doug took over here in the HP side. The only thing that has changed for us is the paint job on the plane. Passengers out here in the desert still wish it was HP. Maybe I should tell them it is, we just inherited an inferior name! I guess it is what you make it huh?

Do us all a favor, give it a rest on the poor me routine. I look at the east planes that come in with all of the grafitti and worn nets and beat up bins, and there's no way that could have happend since the merger. You people generalize us with one bad egg here in PHX? Hypocrites!

 

[YVINTERN]

Looks like hp needs a trip to the cornfield for name calling Bob in several posts now.

I have met Bob before, nice guy, him and I have had our differences here on the boards but neither of us take it personal.

It says a lot about Bob that he takes his own time and own money to let US employees they are appreciated.

Bob and Focus did more the the employees at PIT Res who lost their jobs than US management has done.

Bob also was invited to Boeing Boy's retirement dinner and spent his own money to fly their, eat dinner and stay there so Jim would enjoy the event.

HP,
You just sound like a bitter ex-employee who hates unions.

If it wasn't for unions workers would have no protections from the abuse of companies.

And you cant blame a passenger for expectating quality service for the amount he spends on travel, US has become nothing but Greyhound of the Skies since Dougweiser took control.

US use to have award winning service and clean planes, this management has lost touch with reality, they have no idea of what the business traveler on the East Coast wants for service.

Maybe Dougweiser and his merry band of thieves need to fly on CO, AA and UA and see how a real airline treats their passengers.

700UW...I'm sure you're an awesome guy but...this airline's in a deadlock spiral to the bottom and the management doesn't care as long as "revenue" is still coming in from the synergies...when the revenue "STOPS" coming in...they blame the employees...the passengers for being so cheap and whiny...then sell off US to the highest bidder and golden parachute out enabling Dougweiser to enjoy his millions and millions and playing Golf w/ Tilton in Prescott.

 

[700UW]

The east side of the operation use to cater to the business travler.

Award winning Envoy Service with meals created by Chef of the Country where the flights destination was.

I made no insult towards you.

US had sabre a res system that works.

Clean planes, good onboard service.

Passenger friendly a/c configurations.

No fuel stops for coast to coast on a regular basis.

Do I need to continue?

 

[Hey.. Chill Out]

So being a bitter ex employee who hates unions isn't an insullt? That certainly wasn't a compliment on my charecter. Care to clarify?

Or would you just like to apologize and talk about something positive that can serve a purpose?

 

[700UW]

Are you touchy?

You need to read the post, was your name mentioned in it?

Nope it was not.

Here is the post to whom it is addressed to:

Looks like hp needs a trip to the cornfield for name calling Bob in several posts now.

HP,
You just sound like a bitter ex-employee who hates unions.

That is addressed to hpearlyretiree and it is directly under his post, nothing to do with you, how did you gather it was about you.

Is there an HP in your screen name?

And hp does hate unions, everyone of his posts in regard to organized labor he slams or insults them.