Phl Ramp Walks On Christmas Eve?
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nycbusdriver
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DOODY said:
If you think the flying public ever had any sympathy about our plight, you are fooling yourself. The traveling public is interested in only a few very specific things.
First, I paid my $89 to get from LGA to FLL, so I expect to be treated like I own the airline and all its employees are my slaves.
Second, if AirTran, or Spirit, or JetBlue, Or Delta, or anhyone else had offered me this ticket for $88.95, I wouldn't be riding USAirways.
Third, I expect to get there on time no matter what. Broken airplane? Hurricane? Terrorist attack? I don;t care....just get me there. And, by the way, I expect to be fed and entertained along the way.
Fourth, you are lucky to have my $89.
heh heh heh...funny you mention licking itself....is what we refer to as a lack of work in my dept......or sometimes attitude......"i just L.M.N. today...."Dog Wonder said:
U goes belly up, a close friend tells me we may have to go to a half way house to get back into the mainstream work force...duh??
your dog cockpit qualified??
gimme 10 degrees ears please...
roadtrip
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When Management points the finger they have 3 fingers pointing back at themselves.
USA320Pilot
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There is a full scale investigation on-going into the PHL situation and the F/A sick calls. I understand there are going to be some "very tough" actions taken and there will be more news shortly.
For those employees who called in sick and we're not, they should be immediately terminated. These people were dishonest, they hurt the customer, and they hurt fellow employees.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
For those employees who called in sick and we're not, they should be immediately terminated. These people were dishonest, they hurt the customer, and they hurt fellow employees.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
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For $15 anyone can get a Dr's note and most Drs hate US Airways because all the FMLA problems.
It will go no where, you can't prove a thing unless you have someone on video tape being some place where they were not suppose to be while being sick.
It will go no where, you can't prove a thing unless you have someone on video tape being some place where they were not suppose to be while being sick.
4merresrat
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sentrido said:
This has got to be some of the most pitiful statements I have read on these boards. The mind-set behind it is just incredible. So let me get this straight, it use to be worth it to come to work but now it is not. My advise to you is to QUIT! Find a job where it is worth it to you to show up at. This is what most normal, motivated, and moral human beings do. And as far as your "employees will treat your customers the way you treat your employees, my advise to you is simple, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Would you like to be treated like you treated your passengers this holiday weekend?
PITbull
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USA320Pilot said:
We are in the middle of a vote. We don't need any harrassment from mangment on any level currently. There is a lot of tention out there, and AFA is still in the process of educating the f/as on the T/A. Every holiday there is staffing shortages. Managment should be prepared for staffing problems...they, obviously are not. The company is still catching up with the weather problems of Thursday.
Settle down, sparky.
pitguy
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CaptianBoomer
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I have been reading all the posts and vitriol about the "sick out" and the rest.
I find a lot of the pontificating to be a little amusing.
What is not amusing is the pain and suffering that is being inflicted on good people who have spent their hard earned money buying tickets on U to travel only to have a nightmarish holiday travel experience. It is not amusing that those who were honest enough to work yesterday and today had to bear the brunt of this.
What is equally unamusing is the fact that U is totally mismanaged. Management has run this company so short of employees that is cannot handle the holiday rush and it cannot absorb any glitch in the weather, schedule, or even an larger number of sick calls. This management parrot spouting about the sick calls is just that, someone who is conducting damage control. Management, like it or not, is culpable for this mess. Sure, the employees who are calling in sick are to blame as well, but this was sure to happen sooner or later.
No doubt that some people will call off sick for Christmas or a birthday or an anniversary. This isn't something "new" to the airline industry and it isn't new to U. What is "new" is the apathy of the employee group(s) towards their jobs because management has literally beat the s--t out of these people and now they are reaping what they have sown. This isn't a tit for tat, stand toe to toe and slug it out fistfight. The reaction of the U employees is similar to that of a cornered dog that literally has nowhere to go. The dog has been beaten and kicked and treated poorly and it finally has bit its owner.
I am surprised it didn't happen sooner.
USA320 - don't give me this crap about the investigation and the "tough" actions. This company has always been all bark and no bite when it comes to deadbeat employees. Just another instance where they don't have the guts to manage their way out of a wet paper bag.
My best all.
Boomer
I find a lot of the pontificating to be a little amusing.
What is not amusing is the pain and suffering that is being inflicted on good people who have spent their hard earned money buying tickets on U to travel only to have a nightmarish holiday travel experience. It is not amusing that those who were honest enough to work yesterday and today had to bear the brunt of this.
What is equally unamusing is the fact that U is totally mismanaged. Management has run this company so short of employees that is cannot handle the holiday rush and it cannot absorb any glitch in the weather, schedule, or even an larger number of sick calls. This management parrot spouting about the sick calls is just that, someone who is conducting damage control. Management, like it or not, is culpable for this mess. Sure, the employees who are calling in sick are to blame as well, but this was sure to happen sooner or later.
No doubt that some people will call off sick for Christmas or a birthday or an anniversary. This isn't something "new" to the airline industry and it isn't new to U. What is "new" is the apathy of the employee group(s) towards their jobs because management has literally beat the s--t out of these people and now they are reaping what they have sown. This isn't a tit for tat, stand toe to toe and slug it out fistfight. The reaction of the U employees is similar to that of a cornered dog that literally has nowhere to go. The dog has been beaten and kicked and treated poorly and it finally has bit its owner.
I am surprised it didn't happen sooner.
USA320 - don't give me this crap about the investigation and the "tough" actions. This company has always been all bark and no bite when it comes to deadbeat employees. Just another instance where they don't have the guts to manage their way out of a wet paper bag.
My best all.
Boomer
4merresrat
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USA320 - don't give me this crap about the investigation and the "tough" actions. This company has always been all bark and no bite when it comes to deadbeat employees. Just another instance where they don't have the guts to manage their way out of a wet paper bag.
My best all.
Boomer
Wow, no truer words were ever spoken on these boards. I saw it MANY times in res., people would be fired with just cause. THey were horrible employees who abused everything, sick time, FMLA, were terrible agents, and YES some were even caught giving away free tickets and selling cheap nonrefundable tickets on the same day when the flights only had full fare tickets ( I will not mention any stations but you know who you are in a cold city in New York State). And they would be fired and sure enough 3-6 months later the union would fight for them and they would be back at their job-and some even kept doing the same thing that they were fired for in the 1st place. The company had their hands tied behind their back due to the unions. There are so many unethical people at this company it is really sad for the hard working honest employees just trying to make a living.
My best all.
Boomer
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[/quote]Wow, no truer words were ever spoken on these boards. I saw it MANY times in res., people would be fired with just cause. THey were horrible employees who abused everything, sick time, FMLA, were terrible agents, and YES some were even caught giving away free tickets and selling cheap nonrefundable tickets on the same day when the flights only had full fare tickets ( I will not mention any stations but you know who you are in a cold city in New York State). And they would be fired and sure enough 3-6 months later the union would fight for them and they would be back at their job-and some even kept doing the same thing that they were fired for in the 1st place. The company had their hands tied behind their back due to the unions. There are so many unethical people at this company it is really sad for the hard working honest employees just trying to make a living.
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4merresrat said:
That is total BS, the contract has a grievance procedure and by law the unions have to represent the terminated employee. Company rules govern why someone gets terminated, not the contract.
I have seen numerous terminations stick as the company fires the person correctly.
But most of the people who get their jobs back get it back because the company did not follow the "just cause" steps.
If management knew how to manage the terminations would stick.
