Nov/Dec 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Bill Brasky]

McKee has nothing to do with this, the pilot group is fed up with Hummel and his lies plain and simple, he dug his own grave.

Pretty fed up with pay raises, I guess.

 

[luvthe9]

Pretty fed up with pay raises, I guess.

No, still the lowest paid though.

 

[Res Judicata]

And still NIC free , has to be tearing you up.

 

 
The final outcome no matter what it's called will be alot closer to the NIC than it will be to DOH/LOS and you will have wasted the last 5 years on LOA 93.
 
That's gonna tear you up when it happens.

The APA cannot take over fast enough. This fake union is being crushed under the weight of its own idiocy. My guess is Silver is basically going to punt the ball again straight to the arbitrators. No way USTUPID is going to be allowed to "represent" the West at SLI. That could be a worse case scenario for the East. I'm sure the West isn't going to argue for the Nic, I'd be surprised if they won't argue for considerably more. There's no way USCABA can hide from their own actions over the last several years...if I were them, I'd fear an independent West more than the Nic. Everything has blown up in USCABAs face from day 1. An unending string of failures, fumbles, and embarrassment.

They're just warming up for the final nuclear implosion that is obviously gaining steam. The maniacs are back stabbing, name calling, fear mongering, finger pointing, and are showing the APA just what an ineffective bunch of pathetic idiots they're dealing with. The recall Emails read like an hysterical teenage girls diary. The Scab union and the scabs that own and operate it can't get shoved into the fire fast enough. The APA Is watching closely. They, like The West, are laughing their asses off watching a group of geriatric bafoons falling all over themselves in a flailing retarded slap fight.

Just keep boycotting the meetings, they run much smoother without you noisy scabs demanding attention.

 

[Res Judicata]

No, still the lowest paid though.

Of course you are. Giveaway Gary strikes again.

 

[luvthe9]

The APA cannot take over fast enough. This fake union is being crushed under the weight of its own idiocy. My guess is Silver is basically going to punt the ball again straight to the arbitrators. No way USTUPID is going to be allowed to "represent" the West at SLI. That could be a worse case scenario for the East. I'm sure the West isn't going to argue for the Nic, I'd be surprised if they won't argue for considerably more. There's no way USCABA can hide from their own actions over the last several years...if I were them, I'd fear an independent West more than the Nic. Everything has blown up in USCABAs face from day 1. An unending string of failures, fumbles, and embarrassment.
They're just warming up for the final nuclear implosion that is obviously gaining steam. The maniacs are back stabbing, name calling, fear mongering, finger pointing, and are showing the APA just what an ineffective bunch of pathetic idiots they're dealing with. The recall Emails read like an hysterical teenage girls diary. The Scab union and the scabs that own and operate it can't get shoved into the fire fast enough. The APA Is watching closely. They, like The West, are laughing their asses off watching a group of geriatric bafoons falling all over themselves in a flailing retarded slap fight.
Just keep boycotting the meetings, they run much smoother without you noisy scabs demanding attention.

. Well, somebody got an A in creative and imaginative writing.

 

[traderjake]

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The UNICORNS...Now dead and gone, finally and forever.

 
There, I fixed it for you.
 
You need use a spell checker when you get upset.
 
Those pesky unicorns won't be bothering you anymore. 

 

[luvthe9]

There, I fixed it for you.
 
You need to get a spell checker.
 
Those pesky unicorns won't be bothering you anymore.

By unicorns I guess you mean Hummel and Bradford.

 

[Reed Richards]

No, still the lowest paid though.

Lower than LOA93?  You have to be shi...ing me, you are not the least bit happy about our recent gains?  RR

 

[traderjake]

By unicorns I guess you mean Hummel and Bradford.

 
 
Oh, you've given them names.
 
Whatever helps you cope.

 

[Res Judicata]

Lower than LOA93?  You have to be shi...ing me, you are not the least bit happy about our recent gains?  RR

These are the People running your fake union. Don't worry, they've got everything under control. Those APA rookies and AOL legal teams are no match for their collective brilliance. HHHHAAAA!!!!!

 

[snapthis]

These are the People running your fake union. Don't worry, they've got everything under control. Those APA rookies and AOL legal teams are mere are no match for their collective brilliance. HHHHAAAA!!!!!

 
Not everybody is impressed with their collective "brilliance" since the Anderson letter has been making the rounds.
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_285_Letter_filed_by_James_H._Anderson.pdf
 
Dear James,
Your lengthy and roaming letter is indicative of who you are and where you are from. I jump-seated on US Air as a new commercial pilot in 1996. It was a painful experience and I vowed your company would be at the bottom of my list of desirable airlines to work for. I was treated like a passenger on a Trail-ways bus ride run-a-muck. And I always wondered why I felt the way I did? I think you answered my long enduring question in your letter.


As a professional airline pilot I always appreciated the diversity that made companies strong, safe and respected within the systems where they flew. By that I mean pilots who respect their bothers and sisters; pilots who appreciate the varied backgrounds and experiences which contribute to a safe and well-conducted flight. No matter what; every time. Your view of America West is "the problem," and has been a problem for as long as you have been one company. I am sad for you; sad you could not see what could have made US Air great.


I am embarrassed for you. Your letter is the case against you, and the OLD US Airways. And your letter makes you the poster-child for your pilot group. It reminds me of my dad whipping me as a child....... (and I was deserving)...... As his belt slid through the loops in his pants, he calmly said.... "son you just can't stand prosperity." 15 years later I learned what prosperity was. Sadly, I predict 15 years from now you will learn the same lesson too.


My hope for you is that you don't get what you deserve. If I were the judge your pompous name would have been erased. You would have fallen into the ranks of the "bankruptcy companies;" since you were bankrupt. You would have no "Captain" beside your name, nor a facade to plead your weak case.


I am sorry you don't see what this profession wants for you. WE want the best for ALL of us who are professional airline pilots; a safe work environment, stature, pay , seniority..... and happiness.


I am sorry if this letter offends you. If I were not so offended by your lack-luster soliloquy, I would not have written you.


Sincerely,


Edward "Nick' Pugh
Captain, Alaska Airlines (Retired)
Lt. Colonel, USAF, (Retired)
Commander 8th ALS, McChord, AFB (Retired)


 

 

[Reed Richards]

 
Not everybody is impressed with their collective "brilliance" since the Anderson letter has been making the rounds.
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_285_Letter_filed_by_James_H._Anderson.pdf
 
Dear James,
Your lengthy and roaming letter is indicative of who you are and where you are from. I jump-seated on US Air as a new commercial pilot in 1996. It was a painful experience and I vowed your company would be at the bottom of my list of desirable airlines to work for. I was treated like a passenger on a Trail-ways bus ride run-a-muck. And I always wondered why I felt the way I did? I think you answered my long enduring question in your letter.


As a professional airline pilot I always appreciated the diversity that made companies strong, safe and respected within the systems where they flew. By that I mean pilots who respect their bothers and sisters; pilots who appreciate the varied backgrounds and experiences which contribute to a safe and well-conducted flight. No matter what; every time. Your view of America West is "the problem," and has been a problem for as long as you have been one company. I am sad for you; sad you could not see what could have made US Air great.


I am embarrassed for you. Your letter is the case against you, and the OLD US Airways. And your letter makes you the poster-child for your pilot group. It reminds me of my dad whipping me as a child....... (and I was deserving)...... As his belt slid through the loops in his pants, he calmly said.... "son you just can't stand prosperity." 15 years later I learned what prosperity was. Sadly, I predict 15 years from now you will learn the same lesson too.


My hope for you is that you don't get what you deserve. If I were the judge your pompous name would have been erased. You would have fallen into the ranks of the "bankruptcy companies;" since you were bankrupt. You would have no "Captain" beside your name, nor a facade to plead your weak case.


I am sorry you don't see what this profession wants for you. WE want the best for ALL of us who are professional airline pilots; a safe work environment, stature, pay , seniority..... and happiness.


I am sorry if this letter offends you. If I were not so offended by your lack-luster soliloquy, I would not have written you.


Sincerely,


Edward "Nick' Pugh
Captain, Alaska Airlines (Retired)
Lt. Colonel, USAF, (Retired)
Commander 8th ALS, McChord, AFB (Retired)


 

[SIZE=10.5pt]"I jump-seated on US Air as a new commercial pilot in 1996. It was a painful experience and I vowed your company would be at the bottom of my list of desirable airlines to work for. I was treated like a passenger on a Trail-ways bus ride run-a-muck."[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]Guy gets a professional courtesy, and digs on the airline. What a Richard. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]RR[/SIZE]

 

[traderjake]

So if someone gives you a ride you're suppose to be  eternally grateful and uncritical?
 
USAir treated it's own employees poorly when they non reved.

 

[Reed Richards]

So if someone gives you a ride you're suppose to be  eternally grateful and uncritical?
 
USAir treated it's own employees poorly when they non reved.

Any professional would be simply thankful and not throw feces.  But you would not know that.  Connect the dots.
 
And what does "USAir" have anything to do with one pilot welcoming another to his cockpit? This event has nothing to do with non rev.
 
RR

 

[traderjake]

 

Any professional would be simply thankful and not throw feces.  But you would not know that.  Connect the dots.
 
 

 
Any professional would not give a fellow pilot reason to make him feel like he was treated like feces.
 
You obviously don't now that.