Non Rev policies after merger?

[Justme]

I've seen that happen, followed by the senior employee taunting the people getting left behind. The number of people without any class at all in this organization is staggering.

I'm almost embarrassed and feel bad for people that are left behind when I get a seat.  I think there are more people like me out there than people like the ones you have observed being total jerks.

 

[AANOTOK]

The AA way is a more responsible way for the employees to conduct themselves while utilizing a company benefit. This also helps out our fellow agents to process the passengers that are already waiting to get on. I'm sure I will get opposing views mostly from senior people. I have just under 30 years and you would think I would favor seniority, but I do not.

Over 30 yrs and prefer our (AA) way.

 

[cynic]

For instance, once you check-in as a D2 (the most common travel status for employees). If you then find out that you are low on the standby list because other people get up earlier and check themselves in at the first opportunity, you can not delete your PNR, then re-list as a D1 to put yourself higher on the list. The system will flag the whole transaction.

That happens all the time as well now on the US side.

 

[AP Tech]

I myself prefer DOH for flying, several times during the transition period with US & AWA I would hit the magic key 24 hrs prior to the flight, ck the list to verify myself, only to get to the airport only to find a name or two had appeared ahead of me on the list with the same priority....????  Although I lack the seniority I feel that will be the fairest way.

 

[cltrat]

there is a big difference in boarding priority that some on the US side may not realize and correct me if I am wrong.
On the AA side retirees are same as active while on the US side they are not.
So that US doh may not be worth as much as you might think if that 40 plus year retiree wants to get on.

I'm of course US and I would benefit from first come but it really doesn't matter that much to me.
Whatever it is I'll make it work.

 

[LD3]

Some times your better off just buying a ticket.....

 

[nevergiveup]

Some times your better off just buying a ticket.....

Done it both ways. Thought I would not like the doh method, but definitely found it better.

 

[Black Magic]

When Delta and Northwest merged the company gave the employees 2 positive space tickets to anywhere the combined airline flew.  Sure would be nice if Doug and co would do the same for us!!

 

[dash8roa]

When Delta and Northwest merged the company gave the employees 2 positive space tickets to anywhere the combined airline flew.  Sure would be nice if Doug and co would do the same for us!!


US did that after one of the chapter 11's, positive space for 2 people. As far as DOH or FCFS, I really don't care. I am retired US and did not have much seniority and except for one flight, PHL-MUC, I always seemed to do quite well either to Hawaii or Europe.
The US non-rev policy of only having to pay the taxes is what matters most to me as I hear AA charges fees for travel. Is the fee system for domestic travel and or just for international travel?
Considering what US employees went through with chapter 22, (two chapter 11's)and AA taking cuts over the years, why charge fees for seats that go empty anyway?

 

[nevergiveup]

When Delta and Northwest merged the company gave the employees 2 positive space tickets to anywhere the combined airline flew.  Sure would be nice if Doug and co would do the same for us!!

!st class plz.

 

[snapthis]

I've seen that happen, followed by the senior employee taunting the people getting left behind. The number of people without any class at all in this organization is staggering.

The AA way is a more responsible way for the employees to conduct themselves while utilizing a company benefit. This also helps out our fellow agents to process the passengers that are already waiting to get on. I'm sure I will get opposing views mostly from senior people. I have just under 30 years and you would think I would favor seniority, but I do not.

The company did a survey years ago of the US and HP employee group and published those comments. I remember a comment along the lines of all the years of the walk-arounds in the snow and rain and somehow that justified a higher boarding priority on a day off. I've done a number of walk-around pre-flights since the winter of 1978, one of the coldest winters on record. Does that justify me being able to bump a person sitting at the airport all day?

Back to those years of walk arounds. That was the first taste of the entitlement attitude I saw with the previous merger. The mechanic who worked on the airplane all night in a cold rain should get a fair chance of getting on a flight no matter when he was hired. Who knows that person may have been employed 20 years at another airline. They still may have 30 years total in the industry.

Most likely there will be another survey and people need to participate to be heard.

I vote FCFS. It's fairer.

 

[nycbusdriver]

!st class plz.

 
DL probably did that.  
 
 

The company did a survey years ago of the US and HP employee group and published those comments. I remember a comment along the lines of all the years of the walk-arounds in the snow and rain and somehow that justified a higher boarding priority on a day off. I've done a number of walk-around pre-flights since the winter of 1978, one of the coldest winters on record. Does that justify me being able to bump a person sitting at the airport all day?

Back to those years of walk arounds. That was the first taste of the entitlement attitude I saw with the previous merger. The mechanic who worked on the airplane all night in a cold rain should get a fair chance of getting on a flight no matter when he was hired. Who knows that person may have been employed 20 years at another airline. They still may have 30 years total in the industry.

Most likely there will be another survey and people need to participate to be heard.

I vote FCFS. It's fairer.

 
 
I agree. FCFS is fairer.  Kind of like the day you show up for indoc training determines your place in the line of everyone who came before you, and after you.

 

[cynic]

there is a big difference in boarding priority that some on the US side may not realize and correct me if I am wrong.
On the AA side retirees are same as active while on the US side they are not.
So that US doh may not be worth as much as you might think if that 40 plus year retiree wants to get on.

I'm of course US and I would benefit from first come but it really doesn't matter that much to me.
Whatever it is I'll make it work.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the retirees.

 

[UPNAWAY]

That was the first taste of the entitlement attitude I saw with the previous merger.

 
 
Don't forget the old bitties in PIT that almost got our interline agreement with SWA revoked becuase they kept demanding US seniority be invoked on Southwest flights. 

 

[Ramp Rogue]

so what you are syaing is that i had to be born a long time a go then.... i dont kno what ur DOH is but if it is 30+ or close to it thats not fair bc i am only 25 years old. so please tell me how i could get hired when my mom and dad were in high school?

When you are hired you are given a seniority date. It has to stand for something, otherwise they wouldn't have given you one. You put in your time, & pay your dues, & you receive perks because of that. The one perk that they haven't taken away is flight benefits. Boarding by DOH works well for those that have put in their time, retirees included. Junior employees, your time will come once you gain some seniority. Until then take your chances like we all have had to do in our non-rev endeavors. 
 
There is really no recourse with fcfs. If you check in first, and then a manager or a vp checks in after you do, & they bump you & get on the plane ahead of you how can you prove that you were there first? If you go by DOH there is a paper trail that would be hard to dispute. I don't think any gate agent would be willing to take that chance.
 
Rogue.....