Non Rev policies after merger?

[BungeeJumper]

Then whats the current standard for an employee traveling domestic on US ? Is it not tax free?

There is no base fare, thus there is no US transportation tax (7.5% of 0=0). Taxes still apply for international travel, as those charges are not based on a percentage of the fare.

 

[jimntx]

There is no base fare, thus there is no US transportation tax (7.5% of 0=0). Taxes still apply for international travel, as those charges are not based on a percentage of the fare.

There you go trying to apply logic to the situation. At AA, if one lists for (and/or gets) a First Class seat even on domestic flights, the non-rev website lists service charges and taxes due--even for employees with 25 or more years.



Round-trip DFW-IAH-DFW

D1/D2- 5 YEARS EMPLOYEE/RETIREE/SPOUSES/DOMESTIC PARTNER/
DEP CHILD/REGISTERED COMPANION
AIRPORT MILES F-COST
DFW IAH 226 11.92
DOM TAX .89
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50
IAH DFW 226 11.92
DOM TAX .89
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50

SERVICE CHARGE 23.81
US TAXES/FEES 14.38
TOTAL 452 38.22

D1/D2-25 YEARS EMPLOYEE/RETIREE/SPOUSES/DOMESTIC PARTNER/
DEP CHILD/REGISTERED COMPANION
AIRPORT MILES F-COST
DFW IAH 226 7.24
DOM TAX .54
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50
IAH DFW 226 7.24
DOM TAX .54
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50

SERVICE CHARGE 14.48
US TAXES/FEES 13.68
TOTAL 452 28.16

Note that for employees with 5 or more years, but less than 25 years, the "tax rate" for the one-way FC segment, DFW-IAH, is 39%! ((3.80 + .89)/11.92). For employees with 25 or more years, it is 60%!!!!! ((3.80 + .54)/7.24) It might be a little lower than that...the "service charge" may be taxable also. I wonder if the executives and upper-level managers pay this same tax rate on their pos space vacation travel.

 

[Hope777]

As someone who was involuntarily furloughed in 2003, the current AA has no travel benefits for anyone on furlough. (I think if you take a voluntary fulough (which is almost unheard of at AA), there are some limited travel benefits, but involuntary furlough, you get nada.)

At US, InVol Furloughs got Three Years Travel. Vol Furloughs, Two Years from the time of the Furlough.

 

[BungeeJumper]

There you go trying to apply logic to the situation. At AA, if one lists for (and/or gets) a First Class seat even on domestic flights, the non-rev website lists service charges and taxes due--even for employees with 25 or more years.



Round-trip DFW-IAH-DFW

D1/D2- 5 YEARS EMPLOYEE/RETIREE/SPOUSES/DOMESTIC PARTNER/
DEP CHILD/REGISTERED COMPANION
AIRPORT MILES F-COST
DFW IAH 226 11.92
DOM TAX .89
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50
IAH DFW 226 11.92
DOM TAX .89
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50

SERVICE CHARGE 23.81
US TAXES/FEES 14.38
TOTAL 452 38.22

D1/D2-25 YEARS EMPLOYEE/RETIREE/SPOUSES/DOMESTIC PARTNER/
DEP CHILD/REGISTERED COMPANION
AIRPORT MILES F-COST
DFW IAH 226 7.24
DOM TAX .54
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50
IAH DFW 226 7.24
DOM TAX .54
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50

SERVICE CHARGE 14.48
US TAXES/FEES 13.68
TOTAL 452 28.16

Note that for employees with 5 or more years, but less than 25 years, the "tax rate" for the one-way FC segment, DFW-IAH, is 39%! ((3.80 + .89)/11.92). For employees with 25 or more years, it is 60%!!!!! ((3.80 + .54)/7.24) It might be a little lower than that...the "service charge" may be taxable also. I wonder if the executives and upper-level managers pay this same tax rate on their pos space vacation travel.

The US Flight Segment Tax (ZP) is not a fare-based percentage, but a flat tax. The fact that there is a base fare greater than 0 causes the ZP tax to be incurred.

 

[Crash Pad DCA]

There you go trying to apply logic to the situation. At AA, if one lists for (and/or gets) a First Class seat even on domestic flights, the non-rev website lists service charges and taxes due--even for employees with 25 or more years.

Round-trip DFW-IAH-DFW

D1/D2- 5 YEARS EMPLOYEE/RETIREE/SPOUSES/DOMESTIC PARTNER/
DEP CHILD/REGISTERED COMPANION
AIRPORT MILES F-COST
DFW IAH 226 11.92
DOM TAX .89
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50
IAH DFW 226 11.92
DOM TAX .89
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50

SERVICE CHARGE 23.81
US TAXES/FEES 14.38
TOTAL 452 38.22

D1/D2-25 YEARS EMPLOYEE/RETIREE/SPOUSES/DOMESTIC PARTNER/
DEP CHILD/REGISTERED COMPANION
AIRPORT MILES F-COST
DFW IAH 226 7.24
DOM TAX .54
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50
IAH DFW 226 7.24
DOM TAX .54
SEG TAX 3.80
ADMIN FEE 2.50

SERVICE CHARGE 14.48
US TAXES/FEES 13.68
TOTAL 452 28.16

Note that for employees with 5 or more years, but less than 25 years, the "tax rate" for the one-way FC segment, DFW-IAH, is 39%! ((3.80 + .89)/11.92). For employees with 25 or more years, it is 60%!!!!! ((3.80 + .54)/7.24) It might be a little lower than that...the "service charge" may be taxable also. I wonder if the executives and upper-level managers pay this same tax rate on their pos space vacation travel.

An Admin Fee of $2.50 per segment just to fly non-revenue? Wow, how fAAir is that?

 

[Veritas]

As someone who was involuntarily furloughed in 2003, the current AA has no travel benefits for anyone on furlough. (I think if you take a voluntary fulough (which is almost unheard of at AA), there are some limited travel benefits, but involuntary furlough, you get nada.)

[font=Arial']That's incorrect.[/font]

[font=Arial']When flight attendants were involuntarily furloughed in March 2009, they received unlimited D2 passes for the first 90 days of furlough. After that, it was an additional period of fifteen months or twenty-one months (for those with perfect attendance in the 90 days period preceding the furlough date) of unlimited D2P passes which were subject to tax as imputed income. The total length of pass travel privileges on furlough was two years for those with perfect attendance and a year and a half for all others.[/font]

[font=Arial']That is still the policy today.[/font]

 

[jimntx]

Well, then welcome to the kinder, gentler AA. When I was furloughed in 2003, I got nothing. But, then you always know better than anyone, don't you.

 

[jimntx]

The US Flight Segment Tax (ZP) is not a fare-based percentage, but a flat tax. The fact that there is a base fare greater than 0 causes the ZP tax to be incurred.

Well, whether you call it fare-based or flat, it's still a tax, and when compared against the segment "fare", it's pretty outrageous. But, then as someone else pointed out, charging an admin fee of $2.50 per segment is pretty outrageous also. Since the non-rev has to do all the work--selecting flights, entering required info, etc--$2.50 per segment is unconscionable for what is probably less than $0.10 of computer time.

 

[john john]

Lets hope we don’t get AA NRSA policy

 

[Bogey]

You are getting it! Dougie is not going to piss off 60,000 AA and 15,000 former AWA employees for a handful of US employees.

 

[john john]

Not having to pay for taxes on NRSA travel will piss off AA employees

 

[nycbusdriver]

Then whats the current standard for an employee traveling domestic on US ? Is it not tax free?

Domestic travel for employee, spouse and dependents is tax free and therefore totally free. For domestic partners, an imputed tax which is very small is collected from the employee's pay. International travel is free, but depending on the countries involved, there is tax. (Actually, I think the U.S. government charges taxes on international flights, so you can't escape paying something on international flights.) There is a fee for upgrading to first class on domestic and Envoy class on international. I don't know what those fees are, since I never pass ride on international flights and very rarely on domestic.

 

[BungeeJumper]

There is a fee for upgrading to first class on domestic and Envoy class on international. I don't know what those fees are, since I never pass ride on international flights and very rarely on domestic.

US Employee upgrades are:
$20 Domestic US (except Hawaii), Canada, Mexico, Caribbean, Central America
$100 Hawaii, Europe, South America and Middle-East

 

[Veritas]

Well, then welcome to the kinder, gentler AA. When I was furloughed in 2003, I got nothing. But, then you always know better than anyone, don't you.

Yes, Ralph. I do.

 

[drifterreno]

Can anyone enlighten this Retiree with what we can fly and when and if there is any cost. Also, will our buddy pass people still be charged the same as US? Thanks. It is important that I be able to fly to visit family.