Non-Rev Boarding

[jimntx]

Your post just repeated what I just said.  You never bother actually reading anyone else's posts you are so determined to disagree and prove everyone else wrong.  Yes, if the AFA wins the arbitration, it will be DOH on US Airways metal (as it has always been and is now)--pay attention--wait for it--until a JCBA is ratified, you moron.  I had just posted that and you repeated it like you were proving me wrong.
 
Nothing about the PIT FAs has anything to do with the CBA, except the PIT f/as seemed to think that it applied on every airline they commuted on.  OOPS!
 
Go back to foraging.  It's getting dark.

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

Since there's no such thing as a D1R, and retirees are getting the same number of D1s as active employees, what's the big deal?

 

[jimntx]

The big deal is that every active employee, whether commuting or not, gets on before every retiree.  Once I retire, I can check in 24 hours in advance.  You can check in at the podium 10 minutes before boarding and get on ahead of me--just as if I were traveling D2 today and you checked in with a D1..  Personally, I don't think I care.  I hope my life isn't tied to getting on a particular flight on a particular day at a particular time, but some are upset.

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

Hypothetically, would retirees be satisfied if they got D2, but active employees with registered commuter cities got a higher D2C, for example, for travel between their city and their base?

 

[jimntx]

Well, that would depend upon your philosophy.  Personally, I like the fact that the company's policy has always been that if you choose to live somewhere other than in your base city, it is not the company's (or other nonrev employees') responsibility to get you to work on time.  And, you know as well as I that it would be no time before some f/as would be trying to scam the new D2C classification.
 
You know how we are not supposed to use Knowncrewmember portals except when reporting for work.  Just last week, the flight attendant ahead of me at the knowncrewmember portal in full uniform was in jeans in Ops 30 minutes later talking about her vacation in Cozumel that was starting that day.  Now, if she had started that vacation trip in full uniform in AUS or SAT, how would the agents know that she was not going to work and intended to change out of the uniform at DFW?  We are worse than the passengers in believing that the rules do not apply to us if the rules cause us the least bit of inconvenience or discomfort.

 

[johnny kat]

jimntx, when will you be retiring?  It seems you already have too much time on your hands if you are paying attention to someone going thru KCM and then putting on a pair of jeans.  Gish lighten up already.  Yes, YES we all know it is going to be FCFS.  The travel policy at AA is not any better than anyone else's and the US side will adapt.  But the way you and some of the others go on and on about how restrictive it is and all the hoops employees have to go through, it is apparent that AA's system is entirely inadequate for the new airline.  And this will become more apparent as time goes on.   Simply put, if it is too problematic, management will change it.
 
Enjoy your retirement!

 

[1AA]

I have seen flight attendants show up in uniform at the gate then change into street clothes once they got a boarding pass. This happens all too often and I am not retired.
The main reason is to use the crew lines at the security check points. Is this right? Depends who you ask. What classification they use will not change. D1 or D2 they still travel using personal status. If there was a D2C for crew then I am sure a verification on Sabre would have to be inputed. I am sure they would have to be in full uniform to use a D2C. Then you would hear all the complaints from other D2 travelers that the Flight Attendants are abusing the pass privileges in order to jump ahead of other D2's.
So hypothetically it would probably create more animosity among the employees and retirees.

 

[blue collar]

Hypothetically, would retirees be satisfied if they got D2, but active employees with registered commuter cities got a higher D2C, for example, for travel between their city and their base?

If that were the case, then every other active employee who doesn't commute would be negatively impacted, (and I'm assuming you would mean EVERY employee who commutes would get D2C, not just pilots/fas).

 

[jimntx]

jimntx, when will you be retiring?  It seems you already have too much time on your hands if you are paying attention to someone going thru KCM and then putting on a pair of jeans.  Gish lighten up already.  Yes, YES we all know it is going to be FCFS.  The travel policy at AA is not any better than anyone else's and the US side will adapt.  But the way you and some of the others go on and on about how restrictive it is and all the hoops employees have to go through, it is apparent that AA's system is entirely inadequate for the new airline.  And this will become more apparent as time goes on.   Simply put, if it is too problematic, management will change it.
 
Enjoy your retirement!

Another expert moron.  For your information, the rule that the KCM portal is to be used only by working crew members is a TSA regulation, not a company policy.  And, the TSA has made it clear that if they catch employees abusing the KCM privilege they will shut it down--by airport or the whole system.  They almost ended KCM at MIA because there is more than one portal, and if an MIA f/a was selected for random screening (where you have to go through the normal xray, etc like passengers), the f/a would simply go to the other portal and try to get through there.  You bet your a** I notice when other people are doing things that might cause me to lose a privilege or a convenience.  Just as you would.
 
Retire?  And, give up the glamor of the job?  Not likely.

 

[john john]

If the PHL flight is full. And you go list yourself on the CLT flight and check in again you go to the bottom of the list. LUS computer system puts you on the bottom. LUS computers can't be programmed to do time of check in fairly.

If an employee checks in the day before on LUS for the 7 am flight that cancels and now he had to be changed to the 8 am that he was not checked in for. The agent that had checked in for the 8 am would be ahead of the one that faced the cancellation even If he was checked in earlier than agent B. Why change before you have the system set up to honor your correct check in time.

LUS metal the express board ahead of us on their own metal but the same doesn't apply to LAA.

There are too many *exceptions to the rules". Why change either way until it can be the same on both?

 

[johnny kat]

john john, 
 
I quess some of the mo-rons over hare at the new Americant did not realize that the systems' are not aligned and that this is a cram down.
 
The silver lining is the new seniority roster that was posted by APFA.  A commute is a lot easier when you have the seniority to get the schedule you desire.

 

[jimntx]

john john, 
 
I quess some of the mo-rons over hare at the new Americant did not realize that the systems' are not aligned and that this is a cram down.
 
The silver lining is the new seniority roster that was posted by APFA.  A commute is a lot easier when you have the seniority to get the schedule you desire.

Not for me, it's not.  The system I have always used is in place.  And, I live in my base city.  And, just FYI, I'm about 500 numbers from the bottom of the DFW base seniority list.  Most months I hold one of my top 25 choices because I don't mind flying the MD-80.  I don't mind working weekends.  And, I prefer working in First Class.  Sorry, if you were hoping I get crappy lines.  And, if there's a trip on my schedule I don't particularly like, there is almost always someone who wants that trip or it becomes tradeable with Open Time.  Do you not have that flexibility at LUS?
 
As far as the new seniority list, my relative position on the base roster has not changed one iota.  The only thing I might lose out on is transfer to another base (unwanted) or a popular training class (there don't seem to be any these days that I can't get into).  Oh well.

 

[flyer63]

Well, that would depend upon your philosophy.  Personally, I like the fact that the company's policy has always been that if you choose to live somewhere other than in your base city, it is not the company's (or other nonrev employees') responsibility to get you to work on time.  And, you know as well as I that it would be no time before some f/as would be trying to scam the new D2C classification.
 
You know how we are not supposed to use Knowncrewmember portals except when reporting for work.  Just last week, the flight attendant ahead of me at the knowncrewmember portal in full uniform was in jeans in Ops 30 minutes later talking about her vacation in Cozumel that was starting that day.  Now, if she had started that vacation trip in full uniform in AUS or SAT, how would the agents know that she was not going to work and intended to change out of the uniform at DFW?  We are worse than the passengers in believing that the rules do not apply to us if the rules cause us the least bit of inconvenience or discomfort.

You are a tool. Over half of the Usair crew members have had their base closed. I' can't move my family at this time... Also Kcm just says you have to be in uniform to go thru Kcm screening. It doesn't say you have to be going to work or you can't change.

 

[blue collar]

You are a tool. Over half of the Usair crew members have had their base closed. I' can't move my family at this time... Also Kcm just says you have to be in uniform to go thru Kcm screening. It doesn't say you have to be going to work or you can't change.

That sucks that your base was closed, and I wouldn't want that to happen to me, or anyone. I also wouldn't expect to get on the plane before another employee due to commuting - not that you are advocating that, but it has been mentioned in this thread.

 

[jimntx]

You are a tool. Over half of the Usair crew members have had their base closed. I' can't move my family at this time... Also Kcm just says you have to be in uniform to go thru Kcm screening. It doesn't say you have to be going to work or you can't change.

Oh? And were you guaranteed in one of those vaunted US Airways contracts that 700W is always quoting that your base would never be closed?  I have a friend here at DFW who has had Nashville base closed on her twice!  You may be right about the KCM portal requirement, but I know we got an email recently about not using it even in uniform if not reporting to work.