Negotiations........why?

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WeAAsles said:
I'll take a "guess" where things land. The money is the easy part. Looking at other contracts out there I see. 5 weeks vacation for 25 years (6 for 30) 10 Holidays at Double time. 12 days sick at full pay. And Shift Differential returned, IMO.

Might also be a pre 65 subsidized medical utilizing your left over sick bank? (Although I'd like to see some hours replenished)

They're going to want more productivity in return. We shouldn't kid ourselves on that one.

Again JMO.
It's funny all we really want is what we had
 
Why do we not have a list of wants for this jcba from the leaders of this ASS.
Didn`t you know? It`s all very very secret! We can`t be tipping our hand to the company.
 
WeAAsles said:
Probably get 8%
 
Pilots get 17% contribution, FAs get 10% contribution, we should get at least 13% contribution. 
 
Anything less is our union saying that being a skilled worker doesn't mean anything.
 
bigjets said:
Pilots get 17% contribution, FAs get 10% contribution, we should get at least 13% contribution. 
 
Anything less is our union saying that being a skilled worker doesn't mean anything.
The FA'S 9.9% for 50 and over only, has a limited shelf life. There's an expiration date attached to that. It drops back down contractually to 5.5% I think in 2018.

As for the Pilots comparison, ok. This conversation has been going on probably since before I was born.
 
dvlhog212 said:
Didn`t you know? It`s all very very secret! We can`t be tipping our hand to the company.
 
DP & the Company haven't really said when they are going to open the negotiations.
 
I believe that until the IAM & TWU get all the bs worked out he is going to let us just stew and guess. 
 
GP is part of the group which will be sent to negotiations, Shouldn't he at this point be giving us ALL a play list of what is being talked about by both the TWU & IAM?  As Local 591 Prez isn't he supposed to report to us? He is an elected TWU Officer who works for us. What is being discussed if he is truly part of the inner circle in this process and is being kept in the loop should be telling us all.
 
Has any station had GP and the rest of the team come to your city ask you what you are expecting when the process starts?
 
The TWU Intl and the Dist. IAM Lodge who run this joint Assoc. aren't being forth coming with info it starts with GP.
 
Isn't time we as Local 591 members demand  GP, to show us?
 
Albert said:
It's funny all we really want is what we had
 
Albert  Are you serious? you would be happy to go back to just 2001.
 
That is the mind set we need to change. It's 2015 if you didn't realise it, our current contract does not become amendable until 2018. Contract talks usually take couple of yrs. Do you want to have a 20yr contract. get real!!!! 
 
AMFAinMIAMI said:
 
DP & the Company haven't really said when they are going to open the negotiations.
 
I believe that until the IAM & TWU get all the bs worked out he is going to let us just stew and guess. 
 
GP is part of the group which will be sent to negotiations, Shouldn't he at this point be giving us ALL a play list of what is being talked about by both the TWU & IAM?  As Local 591 Prez isn't he supposed to report to us? He is an elected TWU Officer who works for us. What is being discussed if he is truly part of the inner circle in this process and is being kept in the loop should be telling us all.
 
Has any station had GP and the rest of the team come to your city ask you what you are expecting when the process starts?
 
The TWU Intl and the Dist. IAM Lodge who run this joint Assoc. aren't being forth coming with info it starts with GP.
 
Isn't time we as Local 591 members demand  GP, to show us?
The fact is (right or wrong, and I believe wrong) Mr. Lombardo instructed all NOT A PEEP about the negotiations or you will be removed. That is fact. You all know that GP has told his sidekick Bob Owens the juicy stuff, yet Bob has been like a cricket...
 
DP & the Company haven't really said when they are going to open the negotiations.
 
I believe that until the IAM & TWU get all the bs worked out he is going to let us just stew and guess. 
 
GP is part of the group which will be sent to negotiations, Shouldn't he at this point be giving us ALL a play list of what is being talked about by both the TWU & IAM?  As Local 591 Prez isn't he supposed to report to us? He is an elected TWU Officer who works for us. What is being discussed if he is truly part of the inner circle in this process and is being kept in the loop should be telling us all.
 
Has any station had GP and the rest of the team come to your city ask you what you are expecting when the process starts?
 
The TWU Intl and the Dist. IAM Lodge who run this joint Assoc. aren't being forth coming with info it starts with GP.
 
Isn't time we as Local 591 members demand  GP, to show us?
Pike has been asked at our 567 meetings about what our position is. He says it has to stay confidential so as not to tip off the company. I wholeheartedly disagree, but this is typical twu tactics. Keep the membership in the dark. It will never change.
 
dvlhog212 said:
Pike has been asked at our 567 meetings about what our position is. He says it has to stay confidential so as not to tip off the company. I wholeheartedly disagree, but this is typical twu tactics. Keep the membership in the dark. It will never change.
 
If what you say is a quote from PIKE then he is no better than any of the rest of the TWU stooges Past or present. Peterson and PIKE work for us. We elected them, they both need to step up and represent the members or step down. The only reason that Lombardo and I assume the IAM Leadership would keep us in the dark is that we are GOING TO GET PUMPED AGAIN.
 
It's time for the Locals Officers to stand up to the Intl. Not always blame the Intl. Bobby has been the best at that. 
 
Still can't believe the sheep here at AA put up with this BS.
 
ATD said:
Why do we not have a list of wants for this jcba from the leaders of this ASS.
 
Shouldn't those wants come from you and all the others on the floor, they are being paid big bucks already.
 
Shouldn't they be asking you? Are you going to just let them tell you what you deserve and want?
 
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