Mr. Parker Delta plus 7

[WeAAsles]

sdoyle@twu.org  
 
dvirella@twu.org
 
doyle and virella's email i believe on my way to church will try to confirm later.

You also should think that they probably get tons of e-mails per day. They probably won't answer all of them as there are too many to count (I'm sure right now anyway)

But your Presidents should be able to provide you some answers to the questions you seek?

 

[WeAAsles]

Last one for now. Heading off now to hump bags.

The ONLY person right now who can give us all an answer on that Delta Plus 7% is the guy who's name appears at the start of this thread. He's the only one.

Doesn't he have an e-mail address as well? 😀

 

[Overspeed]

The point is that the membership sees and hears from Parker and his Execs constantly at his townhalls and videos. If you watch them you get the underlying theme whihc is that the TWU/IAM leadership is hunkering down having meetings, saying very little, and not being anywhere near as available as the AA leadership is. So when the response is that we the membership should pick up the phone and call them because they are busy people is pathetic. Parker has made his position clear, the Association on the other hand seems to have gone in to hiding. The problem of past and current union leaders in the TWU not meeting members face to face on the floor, at meetings, or even in the parking lots at our work is a major problem with the union. It was in the past and it still is now.
 
Telling people to google their numbers or emails as an answer is BS and you know it. The leadership needs to lead and not from behind emails and cell phone voice mails but get out in front.

 

[dfw gen]

The point is that the membership sees and hears from Parker and his Execs constantly at his townhalls and videos. If you watch them you get the underlying theme whihc is that the TWU/IAM leadership is hunkering down having meetings, saying very little, and not being anywhere near as available as the AA leadership is. So when the response is that we the membership should pick up the phone and call them because they are busy people is pathetic. Parker has made his position clear, the Association on the other hand seems to have gone in to hiding. The problem of past and current union leaders in the TWU not meeting members face to face on the floor, at meetings, or even in the parking lots at our work is a major problem with the union. It was in the past and it still is now.
 
Telling people to google their numbers or emails as an answer is BS and you know it. The leadership needs to lead and not from behind emails and cell phone voice mails but get out in front.

We don't agree on a lot of things but I have could not have said it any better. It is extremely frustrating the finger pointing.

It is morally wrong for this company to be making the profits it is and not doing any thing to help. Both the union leadership and company leadership are morally bankrupt.

 

[dfw gen]

The point is that the membership sees and hears from Parker and his Execs constantly at his townhalls and videos. If you watch them you get the underlying theme whihc is that the TWU/IAM leadership is hunkering down having meetings, saying very little, and not being anywhere near as available as the AA leadership is. So when the response is that we the membership should pick up the phone and call them because they are busy people is pathetic. Parker has made his position clear, the Association on the other hand seems to have gone in to hiding. The problem of past and current union leaders in the TWU not meeting members face to face on the floor, at meetings, or even in the parking lots at our work is a major problem with the union. It was in the past and it still is now.
 
Telling people to google their numbers or emails as an answer is BS and you know it. The leadership needs to lead and not from behind emails and cell phone voice mails but get out in front.

Hey is a typical twu union shop steward and member.

 

[WeAAsles]

The point is that the membership sees and hears from Parker and his Execs constantly at his townhalls and videos. If you watch them you get the underlying theme whihc is that the TWU/IAM leadership is hunkering down having meetings, saying very little, and not being anywhere near as available as the AA leadership is. So when the response is that we the membership should pick up the phone and call them because they are busy people is pathetic. Parker has made his position clear, the Association on the other hand seems to have gone in to hiding. The problem of past and current union leaders in the TWU not meeting members face to face on the floor, at meetings, or even in the parking lots at our work is a major problem with the union. It was in the past and it still is now.
 
Telling people to google their numbers or emails as an answer is BS and you know it. The leadership needs to lead and not from behind emails and cell phone voice mails but get out in front.

I'm guessing that you mostly mean your President in particular?

The Association as it stands is only a conference room in a Hotel in different cities.

OS you've been in office. You more than anyone understand how it works. In the past did you or anyone you know "publicly" comment on what you talked about, were going to ask for, or informed the members what the company position was at any given moment?

Let's see. Last update said they were meeting again at the end of the month and that they had asked the company to present their initial proposal.

What more if the wheels are in motion do people need? The 7%;question? I'm sure we'll get a guage on that soon enough? So what else?

 

[Black Magic]

From what I've heard not every employee group will be getting Delta plus 7%.  And being in fleet service I'm sure its a target group.
 
All I heard from the union was "lock and load" "you are the union" "we got them where we want them now that we are in section 6 negotiations" on and on..And once again I am the lowest paid of the legacy airlines.  I banged the drum loud to my coworkers to vote NO on the last IAM contract but the leadership insisted it was "best your gonna get." Sigh...They don't care as long as their six figure salaries keep rolling in and whatever kickbacks from being a company pet.  Now everything I said would happen is happening in a consolidated profitable airline industry and the IAM uses their favorite blame scapegoat "well you voted for it."

 

[WeAAsles]

It is extremely frustrating.

I'm just as frustrated about things as you are. I can't even begin to convey that one.

 

[Overspeed]

The position of officer is a lonely, hard, and thankless job. Not coming out on the floor because people will voice their frustrations is wrong. As far as my local president I can say this, he is easily antagonized and does not handle criticism. He bristles when confronted with what he percieves to be personal attacks but he is wrong. It isn't that we want to beat him or anyone else up, we want them to hear us, and come up with solutions based on our direction as members. Tell us the facts not what they think will calm us down, don't deflect and lay blame on another, do something. We are adults and can make decisions.
 
The officers need to come out and not just my local officers but ATD as well. Virella cutting the ribbon with Parker was very bad optics. No TWU officer should be doing any PR opportunites while the membership is slipping back on pay and benefits in comparison to the rest of the industry. Parker and company stand to make record profits and we will get what? My guess is that Parker will throw another goodwill bone (a special raise or bonus) to the working class but exempt those that do not have a JCBA (read the Association). So now add the 4% from 2014, DL+7%, and now the DL+7% with the new DL sclae increases that we will still not have until when? Summer 2016? Winter 2016? 2018? Because the committees are meeting and reconciling so hang on brothers and sisters, we feel your pain...???
 
I think we have a right as members to say not good enough and they should understand that not bristle at the criticism.

 

[Albert]

emailed virella and doyle no answer. tried emailing the iam council but their links are disabled. no one will answer questions. international positions are not voted on they are appointed for life, unless you REALLY FU*K UP reference don v and jim little

The IAM is trying to organize Jetblue. They have a pamphlet out with a toll free number to to talk to a IAM rep. Isnt that something?

 

[WeAAsles]

The position of officer is a lonely, hard, and thankless job. Not coming out on the floor because people will voice their frustrations is wrong. As far as my local president I can say this, he is easily antagonized and does not handle criticism. He bristles when confronted with what he percieves to be personal attacks but he is wrong. It isn't that we want to beat him or anyone else up, we want them to hear us, and come up with solutions based on our direction as members. Tell us the facts not what they think will calm us down, don't deflect and lay blame on another, do something. We are adults and can make decisions.
 
The officers need to come out and not just my local officers but ATD as well. Virella cutting the ribbon with Parker was very bad optics. No TWU officer should be doing any PR opportunites while the membership is slipping back on pay and benefits in comparison to the rest of the industry. Parker and company stand to make record profits and we will get what? My guess is that Parker will throw another goodwill bone (a special raise or bonus) to the working class but exempt those that do not have a JCBA (read the Association). So now add the 4% from 2014, DL+7%, and now the DL+7% with the new DL sclae increases that we will still not have until when? Summer 2016? Winter 2016? 2018? Because the committees are meeting and reconciling so hang on brothers and sisters, we feel your pain...???
 
I think we have a right as members to say not good enough and they should understand that not bristle at the criticism.

Nice, good. And I agree.

And I'd also like someone to say publicly why they're only meeting once a month so far?

That transparency should be conveyed to us.

 

[WeAAsles]

The IAM is trying to organize Jetblue. They have a pamphlet out with a toll free number to to talk to a IAM rep. Isnt that something?

Yes. The IAM is a VERY busy organization. They have a lot of things going on right now. Organizing, Transportation trade conferences, swearing in of new officers, more trade conferences.

Very very busy organization.

 

[Albert]

From what I've heard not every employee group will be getting Delta plus 7%.  And being in fleet service I'm sure its a target group.
 
All I heard from the union was "lock and load" "you are the union" "we got them where we want them now that we are in section 6 negotiations" on and on..And once again I am the lowest paid of the legacy airlines.  I banged the drum loud to my coworkers to vote NO on the last IAM contract but the leadership insisted it was "best your gonna get." Sigh...They don't care as long as their six figure salaries keep rolling in and whatever kickbacks from being a company pet.  Now everything I said would happen is happening in a consolidated profitable airline industry and the IAM uses their favorite blame scapegoat "well you voted for it."

Where did you hear not every group will be getting the 7%? Perhaps from the person in the bathroom stall next to you?

 

[WeAAsles]

Where did you hear not every group will be getting the 7%? Perhaps from the person in the bathroom stall next to you?

He doesn't know anything. He's just blowing smoke. And the guy got around a $5.00 per hour increase since he got his contract and wanted everyone to vote no. Think about that.

J Paul Handler Getty there.

 

[WeAAsles]

His coworkers overwhelmingly REJECTED what he was selling on here. Over (freakin) whelmingly.