Mid-atlantic Airways
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Yes...I would like to know too......Whats up with Midatlantic??????? I was recently told to contact AFA in DC and USAIRWAYS to make sure all my info..(address ..phone #..etc..) was up to date. I wonder why? Are they gonna start calling the furloughed people????? I would like to know too...but, it's all a secrete..we will be the last to know anything. :down:
Hello Newman
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It's an enigma...a mystery wrapped in a riddle. there's more here than meets the eys
willnotworkforfree
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does anybody, know anyone, that has been hired by this shell(shill) 
h34r: company?
h34r: company?to much time to quit
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No. but I know several hundred who are paying for the aircraft!!willnotworkforfree said:does anybody, know anyone, that has been hired by this shell(shill)
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Twicebaked
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Yes, John Flasco and Sharon Goddin. Also, I know 2 of the F/a instructors going to MDA. It is alive and kicking...but for how long?willnotworkforfree said:does anybody, know anyone, that has been hired by this shell(shill)
A friend of mine called me today and informed me that she spoke
with her supervisor today about when starting recall for mid atlantic would
take place and they told her that flight attendant recall for mid atlantic
would not start untill Feb 2004 due to major issues that need to be solved.
Her supervisor did not go into detail. Not sure if anyone knows anything
about this.
with her supervisor today about when starting recall for mid atlantic would
take place and they told her that flight attendant recall for mid atlantic
would not start untill Feb 2004 due to major issues that need to be solved.
Her supervisor did not go into detail. Not sure if anyone knows anything
about this.
USA320Pilot
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US Airways' Training Department began another EMB-170 BCAT (Basic Check Airman Training) course today where collegues of mine began training. I suspect the continued negative MDA third party comments are designed to create FUD with the ACAA and other Pennsylvania government leaders.
Respectfully,
Chip
Respectfully,
Chip
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Chip,
Were your colleagues in training brought back into the US fold with an "express" type classification?? I'm not looking for contract details, just whether their US ID badge will be a mainline one or an express one...
My point here is that I work with several so-called Mid Atlantic people on a daily basis and have come to find out that these people (while furloughed mainline employees) are now technically employed by PSA or Piedmont etc... (Not "Mid Atlantic")
I'm not saying MAA/MDA won't ever exist. I'm just asking if you know a single person whose paycheck now comes from "Mid Atlantic Airlines/Airways". I won’t dispute the pilot training schedule, aircraft delivery schedule, or very “tentative†revenue schedule.
My take on all of this is, I don't believe that MAA/MDA will be its "own" company in the near future. At least not until it can secure its "own" operational certificate. I think everyone's confusion here is coming from us looking for an "airline" that's not really an airline yet, but rather a mainline “alter-egoâ€. From my seat, I’m seeing Mid Atlantic as just a convenient name for the US Airways EMB-170 division. Any comments??
Were your colleagues in training brought back into the US fold with an "express" type classification?? I'm not looking for contract details, just whether their US ID badge will be a mainline one or an express one...
My point here is that I work with several so-called Mid Atlantic people on a daily basis and have come to find out that these people (while furloughed mainline employees) are now technically employed by PSA or Piedmont etc... (Not "Mid Atlantic")
I'm not saying MAA/MDA won't ever exist. I'm just asking if you know a single person whose paycheck now comes from "Mid Atlantic Airlines/Airways". I won’t dispute the pilot training schedule, aircraft delivery schedule, or very “tentative†revenue schedule.
My take on all of this is, I don't believe that MAA/MDA will be its "own" company in the near future. At least not until it can secure its "own" operational certificate. I think everyone's confusion here is coming from us looking for an "airline" that's not really an airline yet, but rather a mainline “alter-egoâ€. From my seat, I’m seeing Mid Atlantic as just a convenient name for the US Airways EMB-170 division. Any comments??
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FYI,
I start Line Check Airman training with Mid Atlantic / US Airways on October 27, 2003. Got the call this week from MDA chief pilot.
I believe the EMB 170 series of aircraft will revolutionize the way RJ / SJ's are percieved in the industry. Just look at WN and B6 interest in these aircraft. I just wish the pay rates would be revolutionized as well
I start Line Check Airman training with Mid Atlantic / US Airways on October 27, 2003. Got the call this week from MDA chief pilot.
I believe the EMB 170 series of aircraft will revolutionize the way RJ / SJ's are percieved in the industry. Just look at WN and B6 interest in these aircraft. I just wish the pay rates would be revolutionized as well
Cloud Watcher
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Too bad US Airways is 10 years behind the rest of the industry in RJ procurement!
UsPerfEngr
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Time for me to eat a little crow....
I just verified that at this point in time Mid Atlantic Airways has about fifty employees. (all MSP's I guess) But as KubotaPilot and Chip stated Check-Airman training will start in a few weeks... F/A's to follow Dec (??? Haven't heard a solid date yet. PittBull has probably posted it somewhere already and I've just missed it)
Sorry for my confusion, but it is all a bit of a jumble to me. MDA people, Main-line and some of the W/O express folks are all pitching-in to help setup the EMB-170s programs and get ready for deliveries, proving runs etc.
I agree with Kubota that these look like great airplanes and I'm hoping they'll attract more business for US. Best of luck to those currently at MDA and to those going to be future MDA employees!
I just verified that at this point in time Mid Atlantic Airways has about fifty employees. (all MSP's I guess) But as KubotaPilot and Chip stated Check-Airman training will start in a few weeks... F/A's to follow Dec (??? Haven't heard a solid date yet. PittBull has probably posted it somewhere already and I've just missed it)
Sorry for my confusion, but it is all a bit of a jumble to me. MDA people, Main-line and some of the W/O express folks are all pitching-in to help setup the EMB-170s programs and get ready for deliveries, proving runs etc.
I agree with Kubota that these look like great airplanes and I'm hoping they'll attract more business for US. Best of luck to those currently at MDA and to those going to be future MDA employees!
USA320Pilot
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MDA is a division of the mainline with separate employee contracts and is part of US Airways Group, but will operate under the US Airways operating certificate.
This division should be viewed in the same manner as MetroJet, except with Express pay and work rules. However, there is nothing Express about the EMB-170.
This is a mainline type airplane, with across-the-board Express labor expense, which is how the EMB-170 will have a break even load factor of about 50%, which will make it truly the only low cost carrier competitor (although Song is a pretty good response).
In my opinion, the US Airways brand will have five products: Mainline, Shuttle (combination of A319 for peak flights & EMB-170s for off-peak flights), MDA, and two Express RJ operations -- PSA (unless Piedmont and Allegheny are merged into PSA) and the Affiliates.
In addition, in this months Air Transport World article Siegel said US Airways intends to expand to 20 European destinations. My question is where is the equipment going to come from to double the destinations served?
Respectfully,
Chip
This division should be viewed in the same manner as MetroJet, except with Express pay and work rules. However, there is nothing Express about the EMB-170.
This is a mainline type airplane, with across-the-board Express labor expense, which is how the EMB-170 will have a break even load factor of about 50%, which will make it truly the only low cost carrier competitor (although Song is a pretty good response).
In my opinion, the US Airways brand will have five products: Mainline, Shuttle (combination of A319 for peak flights & EMB-170s for off-peak flights), MDA, and two Express RJ operations -- PSA (unless Piedmont and Allegheny are merged into PSA) and the Affiliates.
In addition, in this months Air Transport World article Siegel said US Airways intends to expand to 20 European destinations. My question is where is the equipment going to come from to double the destinations served?
Respectfully,
Chip
