Mechanics vote

[PhxRanchHand]

You said the contract would have to be renegotiated for the work to comeback in-house.

I provided you with the factual language where it states the company may outsource. Meaning they don't have to outsource if they choose to do the work in-house. So the CBA does not have to be renegotiated to bring the work back in-house as the language all ready exists. See that is a fact.

That is factual language and its factual interpretation.

Have you even read the language?

So then could heavy mx be brought back to the company under a IBT contract, if what you say about the company's decision to bring back work then the IBT could get the work back also

Nafu, see I told you the talking points were coming...

 

[Snafu]

So then could heavy mx be brought back to the company under a IBT contract, if what you say about the company's decision to bring back work then the IBT could get the work back also

Nafu, see I told you the talking points were coming...

Very correct you are. I hope everyone is reading this and realizes.........same possibility of work coming back and a union (IBT) that hasn't ticked off (nice way to put it, huh?) the majority of the employees.

 

[700UW]

The differance is the IAM/CBA all ready contains the language to perform the work in-house and have the expertise and all the tooling and the facilities. And we all ready perform all the A320 overhaul, 50% of the 737s, you don't.

We have also performed until the last final offer CBA all the overhaul on the A330, 767 and 757.

Can you say the same about HP and the ibt/HP CBA?

 

[PhxRanchHand]

Duh since we have never had 767's or 330's no i can not say that, but still with IBT and a new commitment from the company to bring all back in house it doesn't matter the name on the union board it s still the employees doing the work, just because there are different crafts under one CBA, it does'nt make all in the unit an AMT

 

[700UW]

Commitment?

Funny your scope in the new CBA is not T/Aed, and HP renewed their contract with Timco and Aeroman.

You know what you can do with a commitment, lol!!!

Funny why are the 757s getting ETOPS mods at Goodyear then?

Why is Timco and Aeroman overhauling your planes then?

 

[Snafu]

The differance is the IAM/CBA all ready contains the language to perform the work in-house and have the expertise and all the tooling and the facilities. And we all ready perform all the A320 overhaul, 50% of the 737s, you don't.

We have also performed until the last final offer CBA all the overhaul on the A330, 767 and 757.

Can you say the same about HP and the ibt/HP CBA?

And is there anything in any contract that says better language can't be put into the transition agreement??

I thought that since the outsourcing and the bankruptcy's, etc., that a lot of employees were lost and that facilities were being closed because of costs and I don't remember anything about a loss of tooling but......I would suspect that with the outsourcing, some of the tooling and equipment went with it. I've seen that happen before.

It would be WONDERFUL to see it all come back in house but ultimately, it's up to people way farther up in the food chain than any of us on these boards. But we can all try, can't we?? But somehow, the unions, the employees and everyone involved will have to come together and determine a common point and that's going to be difficult because, IMO, there are too many separate agendas out there.

Best of luck to us all.......at the NEW US Airways.

 

[700UW]

The CLT and PIT hangars are open and underutilized.

The Shops are still there, but some of the tooling and equipment has been sold.

And yes better scope language can be obtained, but you know it is quid quo pro from this regime.

Employees can be recalled.

I agree, the divide and conquer has to stop, but neither side wants to give up the dues money.

The common sense would be for the ibt to step aside and let the single carrier status prevail, but there is bad blood between the IAM and the ibt.

The ibt has been trying for years to raid some IAM properties, in fact the ibt just failed at ATT Truck Transport and the IAM prevailed.

 

[insp89]

Only 50% of the 737 Q-Check is outsourced the other 50% is done in-house and I am only referring to the 737s, not the rest of the fleet.

It's good news to here that the 737 parts are coming back to CLT.[for the short term],
But the question is, Will the company accelerate the retirement of the 737 fleet on the east side while building up the airbus fleet on the west side..?

 

[PhxRanchHand]

The CLT and PIT hangars are open and underutilized.

The Shops are still there, but some of the tooling and equipment has been sold.

And yes better scope language can be obtained, but you know it is quid quo pro from this regime.

Employees can be recalled.

I agree, the divide and conquer has to stop, but neither side wants to give up the dues money.

The common sense would be for the ibt to step aside and let the single carrier status prevail, but there is bad blood between the IAM and the ibt.

The ibt has been trying for years to raid some IAM properties, in fact the ibt just failed at ATT Truck Transport and the IAM prevailed.

common sense?? just for us to give up like the IAM and watch thousands lose jobs. ATT truck is a different company and industry all together, they voted what they thought best for them, we want a vote for what is best for us. This is where all of this talk on this thread leads to. We want information to make a vote for what we think is best for each person in the new company. How about the IAM just stepaside and let the IBT have it, does that sound good to you?

 

[awausairtech]

Mr-700 what has the iam done for you and are you a aircraft mech. Or do you ride on the shirt tails of a A/P mech as a auto mech with the iam?

 

[700UW]

The IAM has the #s for single carrier status, that is why the ibt should step aside.

The IAM has better scope language, the ibt has a history at all the airlines of letting the company outsource maintenance.

 

[awausairtech]

The IAM has the #s for single carrier status, that is why the ibt should step aside.

The IAM has better scope language, the ibt has a history at all the airlines of letting the company outsource maintenance.

BULL SH#@# mr-700 YOU ARE SO FULL OF IT. Take time to fill out a IBT card and pull your IAM head out your a#@.
GET YOUR FACT RIGHT OR POST PROOF.

 

[700UW]

The IAM Mechanic and Related including furloughees is over 6,000 at HP you have 850 AMTs.

Numbers right there.

Lets when the ibt was at WN heavy mtc outsourced.

ibt at CO heavy mtc is outsourced.

ibt at UPS heavy mtc outsourced.

Funny how you have to yell, and insult to try and prove you are in the right, when we all know you are in the wrong.

 

[awausairtech]

The IAM Mechanic and Related including furloughees is over 6,000 at HP you have 850 AMTs.

Numbers right there.

Lets when the ibt was at WN heavy mtc outsourced.

ibt at CO heavy mtc is outsourced.

ibt at UPS heavy mtc outsourced.

Funny how you have to yell, and insult to try and prove you are in the right, when we all know you are in the wrong.

READ OUR JOB SCOPE THAT WE ARE UNDER NOW WITH THE CONTRACT NOT WHAT SOMEONE OTHER AIRLINE AND UNION MEMBERS VOITED IN.( WE VOTE ON WHAT WE WANT)HAS I HAVE SAID THE UNION CONTRACT IS AS STRONG AS ITS MEMBERS.

 

[700UW]

And you want all the mtc done at MROs and not have your own mechanics overhauling your planes and adding more jobs.

Proof is in the pudding the heavy checks are not in your contract. They are performed by Timco and Aeroman, not HP AMTs.