Mechanics vote

[Snafu]

Question: Has the IAM contracts ever been ADDED to - like adding in house maintenance, added pay raises, added health benefits, added sick time, added vacation time??

I think not so that should clue you in, 700, as to why the IBT was not able to ADD the outsourced maintenance. But the IBT is currently, and yes, it has been for a while now, in the negotiation phase. (I'm not even on the negotiating committee but I spelled it correctly, just for you. )

So please, look at both sides and both unions and come together for the better of ALL US Airways employees, instead of being so one sided about the IAM.

 

[awausairtech]

and loosing member - the card keep rolling in !!!!

GO IBT

 

[Snafu]

Question: Has the IAM contracts ever been ADDED to - like adding in house maintenance, added pay raises, added health benefits, added sick time, added vacation time??

I think not so that should clue you in, 700, as to why the IBT was not able to ADD the outsourced maintenance. But the IBT is currently, and yes, it has been for a while now, in the negotiation phase. (I'm not even on the negotiating committee but I spelled it correctly, just for you. )

So please, look at both sides and both unions and come together for the better of ALL US Airways employees, instead of being so one sided about the IAM.

Can anyone answer??? I think there are a lot of people that would be interested to know.

 

[allunionsdeceive]

Call me when ibt is succesful in bring the overhaul back in-house from Timco and Aeroman, but the past nine years speaks for itself.

And I have all ready said all I know about the transition negotiations and the IAMNPP.

Keep Trying.

you can talk if the IAM brings the other 50% of 737 and all the heavy's back inhouse in the next 5 years.

 

[PhxRanchHand]

Snafu, you will have to wait until 7's call is returned from the lodge as how to answer, I am guessing it will be because of

2 BK's in 2 years
the BK POR
It is not in section 6

anyway I find it strange that he has the "700UW" as part of his name when that A/C is in a Star Alliance paint scheme

 

[700UW]

Because 700UW was not always in Star Alliance Colors, it was the first Airbus US took delivery of.

The parts are being moved back from Mobile to CLT, rumor has it the company is bringing back the the 50% of the outsourced 737s.

The IAM contracts before concessions contained all the heavy maintenance and shops in-house, not much was outsourced, during the first bankruptcy and two rounds of concessions the IAM was successful in keeping all that work, it was not until the 2nd bankruptcy that the company wanted out of the maintenance business. We always got raises and improvements until the chapter 11s hit.

Now the bean counters are realizing US has no control on the vendors and work will be moving slowly back in-house once the NMB declares single carrier status.

 

[Snafu]

Because 700UW was not always in Star Alliance Colors, it was the first Airbus US took delivery of.

The parts are being moved back from Mobile to CLT, rumor has it the company is bringing back the the 50% of the outsourced 737s.

The IAM contracts before concessions contained all the heavy maintenance and shops in-house, not much was outsourced, during the first bankruptcy and two rounds of concessions the IAM was successful in keeping all that work, it was not until the 2nd bankruptcy that the company wanted out of the maintenance business. We always got raises and improvements until the chapter 11s hit.

Now the bean counters are realizing US has no control on the vendors and work will be moving slowly back in-house once the NMB declares single carrier status.

Interesting......RUMOR HAS IT. Facts only, please. BEFORE CONCESSIONS: will those concessions be returned?? Does the company now want to be back in the maintenance business? I don't think so since the deal with Air Canada. And wouldn't the contract have to be renogiated? I thought you said that the contract is NOT open for renogiation.

 

[700UW]

See if you read the contract you would know nothing has to be renegotiated to bring the work in-house.

The language reads the company MAY outsource, so they can leave the work outsourced or bring it back in without any change to the CBA.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[Snafu]

See if you read the contract you would know nothing has to be renegotiated to bring the work in-house.

The language reads the company MAY outsource, so they can leave the work outsourced or bring it back in without any change to the CBA.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

Maybe if we all had FACTS..................but you said RUMOR. Refer to your previous post, please. Last I knew, they were two distinctly different things. So what are the facts and what are the rumors. It's getting pretty difficult to distinguish between the two.

 

[700UW]

Like I said the language says MAY outsource.

All the 737 parts that were at ST MAE@BFM are being moved back to CLT.

That is a fact.

 

[Snafu]

Like I said the language says MAY outsource.

All the 737 parts that were at ST MAE@BFM are being moved back to CLT.

That is a fact.

So the ONLY FACT is that the 737 parts are being moved, correct? The rest is a RUMOR and MAY - not fact based or concrete. Thanks.

 

[700UW]

You said the contract would have to be renegotiated for the work to comeback in-house.

I provided you with the factual language where it states the company may outsource. Meaning they don't have to outsource if they choose to do the work in-house. So the CBA does not have to be renegotiated to bring the work back in-house as the language all ready exists. See that is a fact.

That is factual language and its factual interpretation.

Have you even read the language?

 

[Snafu]

You said the contract would have to be renegotiated for the work to comeback in-house.

I provided you with the factual language where it states the company may outsource. Meaning they don't have to outsource if they choose to do the work in-house. So the CBA does not have to be renegotiated to bring the work back in-house as the language all ready exists. See that is a fact.

That is factual language and its factual interpretation.

Have you even read the language?

I've read what is available but not sure if it is the most accurate information. My point was the word MAY. Is it a fact that the work is coming back in house because parts are being moved? I would think, and this is only my interpretation, that since the work is already outsourced, it MAY be difficult to get it back since the company (and many, many other companies) have deemed it less expensive to outsource.

 

[700UW]

Only 50% of the 737 Q-Check is outsourced the other 50% is done in-house and I am only referring to the 737s, not the rest of the fleet.

 

[Snafu]

Only 50% of the 737 Q-Check is outsourced the other 50% is done in-house and I am only referring to the 737s, not the rest of the fleet.

Understood but again, you said that the 737 parts were being moved back to CLT. Does that substantiate the RUMOR that the 737 outsourced MX is returning?