Machinists Union Merger Update

[Charlie_Tuna]

Talk is exactly that Charlie....let your IBT secure the verbage on all Heavy Maintenance...or equal to what we enjoy with the IAM now...and maybe you might have a foot race.

Until that point comes....you are betting on a dog that won't hunt for hundreds and hundreds of those at the combined airline.

For now...and for the greater majority...The one in the hand with the IAM....beats your hypotheticals all to hell.

I am not sure you read my post. My IBT? My hypotheticals?

Reread my post you must have been responding to someone else. You sound like you agreed with me? Do you or were you just dieing to jump on someone? Maybe I am the one reading a post wrong.

 

[Bird Doctor]

What kind of representatives you got there? I can't beleave this the kind of representation you have. How are these people going to help if they don't come and visit to see what you need. Guess your don't need anything.

IAM station visits for 2005 pulled from your IAM sight>>> http://www.goiam.org/content.cfm?cID=386

LOCAL LODGE LOCATION COMPLETED
141 Detroit, MI no
1725 Charlotte,NC no
1044 Pittsburgh,PA no
TIM CONNOLLY ]
TONY KLINAKIS ]
CARLA WINKLER } HAVEN'T BEEN TO ANY OF THERE LOCAL LODGES AS
MARV SANDRIN ] OF 15 OCT 05 WHEN i PULLED THIS UP
RENEE CICERO ]
TIM KLIMA <<<IS DOING HIS JOB IN THE 4OF 6

LIES again http://www.iam141.org/usairway.htm#9.30.05

US Airways Emerges From Bankruptcy, IAM Files for NMB Ruling

Now merged with America West Airlines, US Airways this week exited from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection for the second time in 30 months.

America West's management team will dominate the combined carrier, with US Airways' headquarters moving to Phoenix, AZ, America West's home town.

The IAM today filed a request with the National Mediation Board for a "single-carrier ruling". Once the NMB rules that the merged US Airways-America West airlines are operating as a single carrier, the IAM will work with the other labor organizations and management to provide for a smooth transition into the IAM's contracts for America West's employees in the Mechanic & Related and Fleet Service classifications.

"The IAM's position is that seniority should be integrated in a fair and equitable manner by an employee's date of entry into the classification," said General Vice President Robert Roach, Jr. "It is in the best interests of Mechanic & Related and Fleet Service workers of both airlines to bring the benefits and protection of the IAM contracts to the America West employees as soon as possible."

The NMB has not indicated when it may issue a ruling. IAM Representatives have already begun negotiating transition agreements.

LIES they have not started any MEDIATION yet see for your self>>>> http://www.nmb.gov/index.html

FACTS backed up

 

[700UW]

Wrong,

Local Lodge 1725 has had numerous visits from the GLRs and Mr Roach.

You posted International Grand Lodge Representatives, not District. Those GLRs handle over 100,000 IAM Transporation Members.

And the INTL does not handle contract negotiations and enforcement, it is handled by the District. Each General Chairman is always at his/her local union meeting. A GLR may be assigned to assist in negotiations, but the District is in charge.

And CLT and PIT have GC and AGC based at those locals.

Those are the real facts, not the trash you posted.

 

[Bird Doctor]

:down: SO YOU SAY
I can only go by what is on the internet and not your rumors.
WRONG AGAIN

And the NMB ruling you didn't reply to. Guess I must be RIGHT there.

Back your post and reply with links to back up what you say.
Show all of us where you get the rumors/facts or I can only presume what you are posting is not TRUE, HEAR-SAY, MAKE BELEAVE, FARY TALES, MISREPRESENTATION, FICTION, WEASEL WORD, COCK-AND-BULL STORY, MISSTATEMENT, LIES, your choice without facts to back-up what you post we can only presume that you are just posting to be posting. OH I forgot 700UW (with 7177 post) is the king of the IAM post. All post for that mater.

If you are reading this TOPIC please check the FACTS look at the LINKS and not the BS that some people spread.

ps. did hit a nerve?

 

[Awa Contract]

Hey Bird Doctor - you forgot how the IAM has been telling the media that US AIRWAYS is the surviving carrier in the merger - guess they forgot to read the SEC fililings.

 

[700UW]

Were you at LL 1725?

Nope did not see you there when Sito Pantoja who was the GLR until June was there at least once a month and now GLR Tom Regan who has an office at the local.

Nope, you did not hit a nerve but it looks like I did with your yelling in the above post.

And since you are uniformed on how the IAM works, why don't you educate yourself, the District is in charge of negotiations and enforcement, not the International, but I would not expect you to know that and spew your misinformation.

Second, The NMB does not have anything to do with the intergration process in regard to negotiating a transistion agreement. Apparently the IBT has not even educated you on the NMB, the RLA and how it works. The NMB only "mediates" section 6 negotiations (traditional collective bargaining), which a merger transistion is not, and they only mediate when one of the negotiating parties during section 6 negotiations requests the NMB to assign a mediator to facilitate negotiations.

Maybe you should take the time to learn the processes before you post wrong information, otherwise you put your foot in your mouth like you did in the above post.

Guess you forgot the to read them too, the new holding company is US Airways group and US is the surviving carrier as you see what the name of the company is and who's certificate all the flying will end up on.

I guess neither of you let the facts get in your way of a rant.

 

[Bird Doctor]

Wrong,

Local Lodge 1725 has had numerous visits from the GLRs and Mr Roach.

You posted International Grand Lodge Representatives, not District. Those GLRs handle over 100,000 IAM Transporation Members.

And the INTL does not handle contract negotiations and enforcement, it is handled by the District. Each General Chairman is always at his/her local union meeting. A GLR may be assigned to assist in negotiations, but the District is in charge.

And CLT and PIT have GC and AGC based at those locals.

Those are the real facts, not the trash you posted.

Who is yelling caps where to bring attention to your type of posts. not like your post above.

Show all of us where you get the rumors/facts or I can only presume what you are posting is not TRUE, HEAR-SAY, MAKE BELEAVE, FARY TALES, MISREPRESENTATION, FICTION, WEASEL WORD, COCK-AND-BULL STORY, MISSTATEMENT, LIES, your choice


And again show us where you are getting your info. I got mine fron your sight >> http://www.goiam.org/content.cfm?cID=386
your's are just hear say again with out links to back it up.
Is the 1725 just you cause it doen't show up on the IAM link above neather does Mr Roach Sito Pantoja more FICTION

 

[700UW]

Guess your internet skills are not very good.

Meet the Staff

And the page your refer too is not updated as Mr Tom Regan and Mrs Dora Cervantes are now GLRs.

Transportation Local Lodges

Robert Roach

Does the IBT have this?

Education and Technology Center

And you can ask any LL 1725 member in CLT who is active about who comes to our local and you will get the same answers as I have posted.

And I am glad you ignore the rest of the facts I have posted and how I proved you wrong, guess you don't like it when you are shown to be wrong.

 

[B737 MECHANIC]

700U dont you ever work, i see your trash on here 24/7, i guess that chushey IAM hall job gives you time here, thats why you are worried about loosing the IAM

 

[700UW]

I am not on 24/7, I dont have a cushy IAM job, and it is the weekend.

Keep trying though and don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[calibrator]

don't let the facts get in your way.

700...honestly, you should make that a country song title.

 

[allstrike]

The pay diference between GSE and the A&P's is one of the issues that is before us in the current negociations and we are working to close the gap. Our GSE personel are aware of the task ahead in that area and are involved in the negociations. And as far as the work coming in house your current contract keeping the work in house would be in effect untill a new contract is negociated for all US Airways Mechanics. Do you think the contract would be ratified if it did not keep that work or bring GSE wages up to the proper standard. We are well aware of the challanges ahead as we return to the table today and next week. The Teamsters are in the process of amending the contract we are not locked in through 2009.

GSE needs to be brought up in wages - I fail to see how the IAM would be a pay increase for Aircraft Maintanence since we make more than you in our current contract that is being amended. It in not the Teamsters that has a history of wage concessions.

Maybe I didnt make myself clear,all your mechanics will be making $22.77 an hr if they choose IAM without having to negotiate all our mech's are paid the same base pay.GSE Plant Maint all of them...and ours doesnt want the pay cut your current conract will give them.

The latest and greatest Idea around PHL amoung my fellow workers is we would like to see your negotiations complete and in ink,or have a debate between the 2 unions...you game for that.

 

[allstrike]

Got a news flash for you 700 - you got different management now, things are going to be different. You either change and adapt or you will be passed by. Time for a change in leadership and work mentality.

Hey got a flash for you,AWA...your new managment just leased out 8 of the 16 de=ice trucks we have in PHL to Global...Who will be doing the work this year...the other 8 will be held in ready reserve...hummm.

Lease out the trucks with the promise they maintain them correctly,and then pay them to de-ice our A/C while we keep the other 8 in reserve in case they break one...hummm.
Well thats your new management for you,giving away more jobs in PHL.Oh by the way no one was asked,it just happened.
Hasnt been greived yet that I know of but should be,since we do have the people parts and facility to maintian and us the trucks on our own A/C....but then these may not be the exact facts since the new company folks dont ask our openion...or advise us on there decisions.

As to working in PHL,well it is hard...not like Tempe or Scottsdale..etc were there are tons of new apts for rent with pools etc...traffic is good cost of living is nice.And it never drops below sweatshirt weather...we use good to -30 degree coveralls here.
If you want to come up we can find you a cot somewere,maybe you wont have to share a shower or toilet with 4 or 5 people,ohhhhhh we are so looking forward to things getting better.

And by the way the ramp guys and gals are short a couple of 100 peices of equipt,and we sure could us a couple of rivet guns here,have one but no one can find the sets.Just incase another bag cart gets blown around,or global drops a boom on a plane..heaven forbid..we deal with things that you folks out west on ly dream of.Cut us a break please.

 

[700UW]

Actually if they come under the IAM contract their GSE mechs will get a raise as under the IBT contract they are paide less then a A&P.

 

[allstrike]

Actually if they come under the IAM contract their GSE mechs will get a raise as under the IBT contract they are paide less then a A&P.

Yes 700 thats my point AWA contract didnt understand that.