M & R Vote For A UNION.

[TRAVIS]

I lie?

You lie, US AMTs make more than AA's amt, post relevant info, not old.

And why dont you post what union permits the most outsourcing, oh that would be the IBT.

Yes you do lie. AA makes a little over .50 cents more than US AMT's Fact.. As far as the IBT pension you need to talk about the proper plan ( WCTP, The Western Conference of Teamsters Pension) that is in the GREEN. All unions today have allowed outsourcing.fact. http://www.wctpensio...green_zone.html it hard to spin the hard facts...

 

[700UW]

I guess your calling Bob Owens, TWU President at JFK and on the NC at AA a liar, he stated US with the raise makes a little more than AA.

 

[blue collar]

According to Bob Owens, AA's 35% is total mtc including line, US its only heavy.

He stated our language is better than AA's.

And AA is only in the beginning stages of outsourcing work.

Oh, so your proof is subjective. I think the IAM contract has some good things, but also plenty is lacking. The amount of inhouse heavy does not make it the best contract, you need to look at all compensation

 

[TRAVIS]

Did i miss a raise? :huh:

 

[700UW]

https://tdu.org/sites/default/files/120K%20Club%20-%202012_3.pdf

 

[737823]

https://tdu.org/site...ub - 2012_3.pdf

And the same could be said about the IAM. That is the amount declared on the form LM-2, as you very well know the reporting standard for unions provides considerable discretion for the detail of their reporting, de minimis, and other reporting standards which makes it easy to shield other expenditures. How are Roach and Buffy enjoying their Lear on the backs of IAM members strapped to industry lagging agreements? Machinists Place Palace in Upper Marlboro, MD doesn't seem like a shabby facility either.

http://www.goiam.org/index.php/news/latest-videos/10428-headquarters-20th-anniversary-open-house

Josh

 

[700UW]

3% raise last July and one coming this July.

Guess you really have no idea of what your talking about joshie.

The LMRDA is very strict on what a union has to report, it has to report every single penny spent and it is available for public record, can you say the same about your top secret employer?

And yes the building in Upper Marlboro, MD is very nice and paid for, the IAM sold the former headquarters building in DC and made a profit and paid in full for the building in Upper Marlboro.

Keep trying joshie, you make this way too easy.

 

[737823]

3% raise last July and one coming this July.

Guess you really have no idea of what your talking about joshie.

The LMRDA is very strict on what a union has to report, it has to report every single penny spent and it is available for public record, can you say the same about your top secret employer?

And yes the building in Upper Marlboro, MD is very nice and paid for, the IAM sold the former headquarters building in DC and made a profit and paid in full for the building in Upper Marlboro.

Keep trying joshie, you make this way too easy.

Enlighten us about more of the corrupt IAM officials. Surely there are plenty of district and local lodge officials that are trying to dip their beak in the memberships' assets. Just wondering, you are so quick to defend the IAM why are you so sensitive to criticism or discussion of the IAM? Didn't you post awhile back that you have been separated from USAIR since 2005 and haven't been an IAM member since?

Just because they disposed of the building in DC at gain doesn't rationalize however much the IAM spent on the lavish new facility. Incrementally the membership would have been better off if they built more modest facilities.

Josh

 

[to much time to quit]

Yes you do lie. AA makes a little over .50 cents more than US AMT's Fact.. As far as the IBT pension you need to talk about the proper plan ( WCTP, The Western Conference of Teamsters Pension) that is in the GREEN. All unions today have allowed outsourcing.fact. http://www.wctpensio...green_zone.html it hard to spin the hard facts...

Isn't it true that AA OSM's (Overhaul Support Mechanics) make over $5.00 an hour less than US overhauls mechanics? Thats around 730 OSM's making a lot less $$ than US mechanics. At US we have 1 mechanic pay scale for everbody. If you have an A&P then you also get that premium. So its not really a true statement when you say AA make more.

And as far as a teamster western pension fund being in the green, I personally don't care as they will never ever put out a signed legal document guarenteeing any US mechanics will be placed in that plan. They are an organizing machine based on Lies and false promises!

 

[700UW]

Its not a brand new building, it has been opened for about 20 years.

 

[TRAVIS]

Isn't it true that AA OSM's (Overhaul Support Mechanics) make over $5.00 an hour less than US overhauls mechanics? Thats around 730 OSM's making a lot less $$ than US mechanics. At US we have 1 mechanic pay scale for everbody. If you have an A&P then you also get that premium. So its not really a true statement when you say AA make more.

And as far as a teamster western pension fund being in the green, I personally don't care as they will never ever put out a signed legal document guarenteeing any US mechanics will be placed in that plan. They are an organizing machine based on Lies and false promises!

Lets play with words.. a AA AMT(A&P Lic's) line mech makes more that a US AMT(A&P Lic's) line mech by a little over .50 cents. As for a (OSM) who work on the floor and in back shops and may or may not use or have a A&P does get lower pay. Do You Pay The Paperboy What You Pay The Plummer. Their is a difference in a AMT and a OSM. What did the IAM do for the US (Utility Workers)Support workers here. At AWA (IBT) we had Utility Workers too and pay was less.
As for the Pension,The best thing is for You to call.This is the one i was told we would be in but I will see if i can find something signed hard and legal to post. read this link and call. http://www.teamster....ent/our-pension

And 700 this is for you, Just to get your N1 / N2 in the red line.. http://www.teamster...._Loss_Flier.pdf

Have a nice day. B)

 

[to much time to quit]

Lets play with words.. a AA AMT(A&P Lic's) line mech makes more that a US AMT(A&P Lic's) line mech by a little over .50 cents. As for a (OSM) who work on the floor and in back shops and may or may not use or have a A&P does get lower pay. Do You Pay The Paperboy What You Pay The Plummer. Their is a difference in a AMT and a OSM. What did the IAM do for the US (Utility Workers)Support workers here. At AWA (IBT) we had Utility Workers too and pay was less.
As for the Pension,The best thing is for You to call.This is the one i was told we would be in but I will see if i can find something signed hard and legal to post. read this link and call. http://www.teamster....ent/our-pension

And 700 this is for you, Just to get your N1 / N2 in the red line.. http://www.teamster...._Loss_Flier.pdf

Have a nice day. B)

So OSM,s (Overhaul Support Mechanics) are not real mechanics? At US a mechanic is a mechanic whether you work the line or base (Heavy) maintenance. And as far as utilty workers they DO NOT work on aircraft and are not qualified per our contract to work on A/C so what they get paid is irrelevant to how much less a base (heavy) maintenance mechanic makes at AA, which is prob more like $6 or $7 bucks an hour less. Currently a US mechanic with an A&P (which probably 98% have) makes $32.83 per hour plus any lead pay or shift differential. As of July 2013 that goes up $33.71. And we are currently in real contract negotiations for the first time since the mid 1990's. And as far as paying a plumber, I don't because I can do that work myself. You are probably one of those AMT's who pay for a plumber and pay a mechanic to put brakes on your own car! :blush:

And as far as your teamster pension link, its BROKE, just like the promises they are making.

 

[700UW]

Utility at US never fixed airplanes, they cleaned them.

 

[TRAVIS]

You can spin the words all you want. A A&P mechanic is a AMT. A Overhaul Support Mechanic With out a A&P is not a AMT. My view is all A&P's should get the same pay but if you don't have a A&P and want the same pay, Go get a A&P like we did. The truth is a overhaul support / utility worker with out a A&P is no more that in house outsourcing of AMT's (A&P) Jobs.

PS I do all my own work, I have to with this IAM pay scale. The plumber was a metaphor (a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them.)

Have a nice day. B)

 

[700UW]

Ok, so go hop in a lavatory truck and dump some planes.

Go wash and polish some planes, yep you certainly need an A&P for that, now dont you?

Wait there is some barf on a seatback, go clean that up too.