Lga Today--the Pilot Takes A Stand

[aafsc]

It's called management...like I said...we will keep it REAL simple, OK!! Your worst enemy right now ISN'T management...it's the LCC's that have gutted the industry. If you were management you would do and skirt the same issue. I'm NOT in love with this management team but they are all the same. DAL is bleeding 3 to 4 mil a day and I can bet their corporate leaders didn't take the same paycut labor did. That's how the corporate world works. It's management!! Fuel right now is costing us more then salaries!! The whole industry is in a tight spiral...you can point fingers at ALL the management teams everywhere. It's a mess and all of us are looking for the answer before it's to late...maybe it is!! At a $1.55/gallon, we all could work for free and probably would still lose money!!!

[post="256469"][/post]​

Well, Lakefield could have taken a paycut like some of the others have done like Arpey or Grinstein instead of calling his salary a "pimple". This would have shown some shared sacrafice. But it is all becoming irrelevant anyway. With large chunks of the workforce electing to take the early outs or wanting to get laid off to end the misery, I wonder who U management will blame when almost all of the long term employees are gone and replaced by low wage contract employees or low wage new hire employees? Remember, it did not work at CO when Lorenzo tried it.

 

[drifterreno]

Art==that was great of the pilot to think of his pax first. I'm sure everyone on that plane==if knowing the situation would have aplauded him. It's workers like him that made that airline a great airline at one time. Too bad management would have repremanded him if they knew he did that. Way back when he would have gotten a pat on the back--but alas now---probably a bad report in his file. I'm sure your "thank you" meant more to him than you can imagine.

 

[flyin2low]

BTW .......Isn't gate 1 (LGA) for Express? As in Piedmont commuters.

 

[700UW]

US Airways is self-insured for WC coverage, all Sedgweck does is administer the paperwork.

 

[LGA Fleet Service]

BTW .......Isn't gate 1 (LGA) for Express? As in Piedmont commuters.

[post="256482"][/post]​

That fact seems to have been overlooked in all the anti union hysteria here,not to mention left out of the original post.

And we all know that the express operations are well staffed models of efficency and customer service right? With employees who go above and beyond at all times.

But again, dont let facts stand in anyones way...I do enjoy the hysteria from FFocus on Meeeee and the rest who are so eager to tar and feather the IAM without having all of the facts.

Could it be that the express circus at LGA was short staffed? No of course not...

 

[Art at ISP]

That fact seems to have been overlooked in all the anti union hysteria here,not to mention left out of the original post.

And we all know that the express operations are well staffed models of efficency and customer service right? With employees who go above and beyond at all times.

But again, dont let facts stand in anyones way...I do enjoy the hysteria from FFocus on Meeeee and the rest who are so eager to tar and feather the IAM without having all of the facts.

Could it be that the express circus at LGA was short staffed? No of course not...

[post="256493"][/post]​

Yes it was Express, it was Piedmont, and the airplane was a Dash 8. That said, there is no excuse for the rampers not being there. I did not place blame nor did I attempt to. The incident happened--it doesn't matter why--and was resolved in a timely manner by a resourceful employee.

I don't care whose fault it was--and 5 pages of finger pointing and bickering are beginning to show why this company may not make it. If everyone spent as much energy trying to make things work as they do pointing fingers and fighting with each other you could save this thing. It is apparently more important who's right and who's wrong and who's to blame than it is for the place to be fixed and running well. That's downright sad.

The BOTTOM LINE is that the customers were taken care of--and although I agree with the statement that the best way to insure a happy customer is to have a happy employee, the customer still pays the bills.

Customers don't care WHO does a particular job. If it needs to be done, and the group "responsible" refuses to do it, then so be it if someone else pitches in.

You know, the direction this thread has taken has shown more of the real problem than you all might realize..........

I just hope it ain't too late.........

My best to you all....

 

[700UW]

Well you should have said that in the first place.

Piedmont employees are not mainline US Airways employees and they are non-union.

 

[Art at ISP]

700,

It was never finger pointing and it was never aimed at a union or a specific group. It was a statement regarding operations and how the situation was remedied. I have no control over what others read into it.

I believe most people here knew that it was Express all along based on my description of the gate and parking situation, plus the fact that the carryons were delivered plane side.

The 5 pages of arguing and fingerpointing, however, speak volumes about the real problem.

And for what its worth, no one cares whose job it is--if someone won't or can't do it, it still needs to be done. I applaud that pilot for taking the initiative.

 

[jimntx]

700, the point you are missing is that a pilot was doing the unloading. That makes it an unquestionable act. If you have been in the airline business as long as you claim, surely you know by now that any action by a pilot is not to be questioned. Like the Virgin Mary, they are without sin or error.

 

[a320av8r]

Only at US Airways. A company whom encourages its employees to pitch in would take care of the injured pilot. I'd bet LUV would...

[post="256358"][/post]​

No they wouldn't.
They don't have LTD, once your sick leave is used up- so are you.

 

[700UW]

700,
And for what its worth, no one cares whose job it is--if someone won't or can't do it, it still needs to be done. I applaud that pilot for taking the initiative.

[post="256517"][/post]​

There is the problem with society, you don't care about people's jobs as long as you get yours.

Go tell that to the 1,938 mechanic and related who will lose their jobs on March 27th, while the planes you fly on are being overhauled by over a two to one margin of unlicensed mechanics. All 757s, 767s and 50% of the 737s US has in their fleet. Or the 600 Fleet Service people that are losing thier jobs.

Singapore Technologies Mobile Aerospace
Airport ID: BFM 
Physical Location:
2100 NINTH STREET
BROOKLEY COMPLEX
MOBILE , AL  36615 

Personnel
Certificated Mechanics: 532(licensed)
Repairmen: 74
Non-Certificated Mechanics: 1173(unlicensed)
Total Employees: 1776

 

[USA320Pilot]

AAFSC:

AAFSC said: "Lakefield could have taken a paycut like some of the others have done like Arpey or Grinstein instead of calling his salary a 'pimple'."

USA320Pilot comments: Bruce Lakefield took a $325,000 per year pay cut when he joined US Airways from the salary level of his predecessor. When Dave Siegel joined US Airways his salary was $750,000 per year with a $750,000 per year performance bonus. Lakefield's salary is $425,000.

Another interesting comparison is David Neeleman. His salary is about $200,000 per year and his stock based incentive compensation for about 5 years of worth about $20 million.

In regard to industry exeuctive compensation, an interesting report was released today.

See Story

Regards,

USA320Pilot

P.S. The customer always, always comes first, period. Bravo to the pilot.

 

[aafsc]

The point 700UW is that customers don't give a rat's rear end whether they are union, non-union, illegal aliens or the Pope's cousins. Customers don't want to wait for bags, they don't want to misconnect because SOMEONE didn't do their job when they were supposed to.

Like I said before the only SCOPE customers care about is sold at Walgreens and other fine stores and it's mouthwash, not IAM brainwash.

[post="256516"][/post]​

Well, you just assumed it was unionized US mainline employees and started your usual anit-union drivel. This can be found in post #55 where you trashed the IAM. It can also be found in post #32 where you make reference to Lakefields "sense of entitlement" remarks. But since the people in this situation were non-union commuter employees it seems that they have a "sense of entitlement"; I though you had to have a union for that. It just goes to show that people don't care when the pay is so low and it does not matter if you are union or non-union. Do you think they care about you? Do you think they are going to bust their ass for you? They care about you just as much as you care about them.

 

[700UW]

He did not take a paycut!

In order for Lakefield to actually take a paycut, he would have had to be making $750,000 a year before his salary was $425,000 a year.

Simple Math, no paycut was taken and Lakefield earned $1.1 Million in 2004 from US Airways.

Neeleman base salary is less then Lakefield, we have all ready been through this and Neeleman put his own money into Jetblue as start-up capital as one the the investors, how much did Lakefield invest?

 

[700UW]

Lakefield $425,000 + $65,000 BOD Fees.

Neeleman $200,000 in salary $95,000 Bonus and Neeleman recieved NO Stock in 2003 from B6.

In court the Company's expert witness even testified that Lakefield's salary is not inline with the LCCs and he is compensated more.

Lets see if you want to count stock, Dave Siegel raked in $8 million in his first year at US Airways.

David N. Siegel
President and CEO
US Airways Group

In 2003, David N. Siegel raked in $8,996,026 in total compensation including stock option grants from US Airways Group.

David Neeleman
CEO
JetBlue Airways Corp.

In 2002, David Neeleman raked in $327,279 in total compensation including stock option grants from JetBlue Airways Corp

In 2003 David Neeleman raked in $200,000 in salary and $95,000 in bonus money and in 2003 Mr Neeleman recived NO STOCK!

All this right out of Jetblue's Def14A.