LGA-CLT-LAX today

[JS]

I boarded a flight "late" recently (meaning I didn't board with Zone 1) and the first thing the F/A said was, THAT bag needs to be checked...there is NO room"...I said very nicely, "good evening. i am seated in first class. is there any room there?" She apologized and I found space. I just wish some people would say, "Hello. Where are you seated? ok, you are in coach, we need to check that bag."

also, If my bag ends up a few rows back, no biggie (unless I am on a tight connection and then I would hope I would try to board first)--and these people who are so nervous about their laptops...do people really walkoff with someone's laptop???? Or, how about the, don't squish that bag in there, my laptop is in there...what's it made of feathers?

It happened to me once. The other guy made an honest mistake, but if I had not noticed, it might have been a while before I got my laptop back.

Squishing is one thing, but when someone does the cram and jam routine to squeeze a bag in, it is possible to damage a laptop. The padding is designed for normal usage, not Mr. Strongman Toobigcarryon.

 

[US1YFARE]

Yes, but there are so many drama queens on board...and they are not limited to Floyd in the back--some of the pax overreact about everything, but that is what happens when you cater to ma and pa kettle.

 

[AstroLounge]

She probably ran out of snacks, catering is a disaster. Ya'all out east do not have glassware yet? We have been using USAirways china since July of last year out west.

Catering IS a DISASTER, always has and always will be.....26years here, 3airlines.....more clowns under the Big Top than I care to count. As far as No Snacks on an A321- hardly. I can say since Tempe took over, snacks have NOT been a problem in the East. On the A321 there are usually enough onboard to offer a passing of the basket to Pakistan Sounds like this stewardess got all caught up in a predeparture service (which STILL violates the FARs but didn't follow through with a simple service procedure). It amazes me how many F/As will attempt to do a full predeparture service (knowing they are leaving a primary exit DURING the boarding process UNATTENDED, which is in DIRECT VIOLATION of an FAR). These same individuals need to remember F/As are NOW CERTIFIED and just let an FAA Inspector see it......and the Company WILL NOT BACK You Up EITHER. Go ahead Stupid, Do IT!

 

[whatkindoffreshhell]

The window shade issue is one of common courtesy. If you see your neighbor intently interested in the movie, close the "bleeping" shade.

A guy will leave the window shade up.

A gal will insist the lid be down.

Fact of life.

(why not just pull the f---in shade halfway and then everybody shares equally??

 

[BuffaloJoe]

also, If my bag ends up a few rows back, no biggie (unless I am on a tight connection and then I would hope I would try to board first)--and these people who are so nervous about their laptops...do people really walkoff with someone's laptop???? Or, how about the, don't squish that bag in there, my laptop is in there...what's it made of feathers?

I want to be in full view of my laptop when I am traveling. I usually keep it under the seat in front of me, but when I happen to get that bulkhead seat. The laptop stays above me where I can see it. Sure someone could walkoff with it, but I am more worried about it getting damaged, someone moving stuff around and it accidentally drops. With US 757's you have a 50-50 chance on getting that bulkhead. I rarely use the laptop during flight, so once its put away, its there for the trip.

 

[Travels2mch]

Sky high states: Next time YOU"RE the late passenger, we'll just CHECK YOUR BAG, OK?
And, row 1 to row 4 is what?....like 10 FEET. That's what, 3 steps? Sheesh...you're damned if you do, and damned if you dont.

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ONLY Stating opinions.

I would expect that if I were late, which rarely happens. She could have put the late persons bag at row 4, or even better yet, HER bag!!

And row 1 to 4 may not be far, but when 12 passengers are going the opposite way it's not that easy.

 

[Itestwell]

A guy will leave the window shade up.

A gal will insist the lid be down.

Fact of life.

(why not just pull the f---in shade halfway and then everybody shares equally??

Maybe we should just remove shades from the fleet. I think I heard it would save like $12 per flight. :blink:

 

[Travels2mch]

also, If my bag ends up a few rows back, no biggie (unless I am on a tight connection and then I would hope I would try to board first)--and these people who are so nervous about their laptops...do people really walkoff with someone's laptop???? Or, how about the, don't squish that bag in there, my laptop is in there...what's it made of feathers?

When it happened to me, I was on a tight connection, and given that I had a bulkhead seat, that's why I made sure I was at the gate early and boarded first. I had a friend/coworker who had his laptop stolen in an airplane overhead bin.....Guess I've been a little paranoid since that happened.

 

[Informed1]

Catering IS a DISASTER, always has and always will be.....26years here, 3airlines.....more clowns under the Big Top than I care to count. As far as No Snacks on an A321- hardly. I can say since Tempe took over, snacks have NOT been a problem in the East. On the A321 there are usually enough onboard to offer a passing of the basket to Pakistan Sounds like this stewardess got all caught up in a predeparture service (which STILL violates the FARs but didn't follow through with a simple service procedure). It amazes me how many F/As will attempt to do a full predeparture service (knowing they are leaving a primary exit DURING the boarding process UNATTENDED, which is in DIRECT VIOLATION of an FAR). These same individuals need to remember F/As are NOW CERTIFIED and just let an FAA Inspector see it......and the Company WILL NOT BACK You Up EITHER. Go ahead Stupid, Do IT!

The following appeared in the Sept 11, 2006 eline when the union contacted the FAA for guidance following the company issuing alert bulletin 03-2006. In the bulletin the C f/a on the 321 was to assist with the pre departure service in f/c. The union asserted that doing so would violate an FAR because the C f/a would be out of site of his/her assigned exit during boarding. The FAAs response- it's okay! The whole profession is a crap shoot anymore. FAR should be black and white without guessing. Now it seems there is a gray area....

"AFA stressed that the use of the "C" would not allow he/she to adequately perform the other required barding duties. A conference call was held with the FAA to determine their acceptance of the company's position that the "C" could assist the "A" and be away from his/her boarding station at the 2/L door. The FAA's position was the "C" could be away from their boarding station for a "short period of time", but would not define exactly what a "short period of time" was."

The full text can be found at www.afausairways.org Sept 11, 2006 eline.

 

[BoeingBoy]

You can just about bet that the interpretation came from the POI in PIT that oversee's US. B6 got approval from their POI for a trial on extending the 8 in 24 limitations for pilots doing transcons, so thought they were dovered. They caught heck for it when FAA headquarters found out.

Jim

 

[LCC_#1]

Catering IS a DISASTER, always has and always will be.....26years here, 3airlines.....more clowns under the Big Top than I care to count. As far as No Snacks on an A321- hardly. I can say since Tempe took over, snacks have NOT been a problem in the East. On the A321 there are usually enough onboard to offer a passing of the basket to Pakistan Sounds like this stewardess got all caught up in a predeparture service (which STILL violates the FARs but didn't follow through with a simple service procedure). It amazes me how many F/As will attempt to do a full predeparture service (knowing they are leaving a primary exit DURING the boarding process UNATTENDED, which is in DIRECT VIOLATION of an FAR). These same individuals need to remember F/As are NOW CERTIFIED and just let an FAA Inspector see it......and the Company WILL NOT BACK You Up EITHER. Go ahead Stupid, Do IT!

Well if thats the case, we all should be fined and fired. I don't know of a single f/a that is clued to their door. Geez, predeparture takes all of 10 minutes.

 

[AstroLounge]

And WHOM is covering your doors? On the 321 there are 8doors.....4pairs and only 4F/As staffing the airplane. What are we doing , changing the FARs to suit a predeparture service? There are rules in place for a reason- IF that is NOT the case, WHY in the h*ll do we even have a Manual. (Now if the day comes when I can pick and choose which rules/FARs & company policies I WANT TO FOLLOW- so be it, JUST SAY SO).

 

[LCC_#1]

And WHOM is covering your doors? On the 321 there are 8doors.....4pairs and only 4F/As staffing the airplane. What are we doing , changing the FARs to suit a predeparture service? There are rules in place for a reason- IF that is NOT the case, WHY in the h*ll do we even have a Manual. (Now if the day comes when I can pick and choose which rules/FARs & company policies I WANT TO FOLLOW- so be it, JUST SAY SO).

I know where your coming from, but we have NEVER been order to stay at those doors during boarding. If that were the case, the boarding would be chaos. Can't get you a pillow...cant leave my door. Can't help you to your seat, 85 yr old grandma...the door. The door, the door...blah...blah...on and on. See where I'm going with this. Where we ALL seem to fail is staying in our j/s and fastened during taxi. Talk about breaking a FAR.

 

[Bear96]

Do other U.S. carriers fly the 321?

 

[700UW]

Spirit does.

The Spirit’s A321 aircraft holds 198 passengers with 182 in Spirit Coach and 16 in Spirit Plus.