Lga Today--the Pilot Takes A Stand

[DCAflyer]

Oh yes it is true, there are many people at US Airways that get denied workers comp claims because they did not trip, slip or fall.

If a pilot is unloading a plane and management did not force him to that, he will not be covered, remember his pay stops when he pulls into the gate, if you are doing something not in your job scope, they will not cover the claim.

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Absolutely false. Insurance coverage exists for any employee injuries, while on duty or while on company property. And any denial would not be US Airway's doing, the insurance company is responsible, not the company.

Again, your typical rumor mongering.

 

[700UW]

If the rampers were not there and not doing their jobs, management has a recourse to rectify the situation, it does not make it right for another worker under a differant contract and a member of a differant union to step in and do a job that is not theirs, plain and simple.

Are you trained on the use of belt loaders or tugs?

Your Company ID only permits you on the ramp to do a walk around, not work in a SIDA area nor have driving privliges.

I don't condone someone not doing their job, but it does not give someone else carte blanche to step in and just do it.

Are you trained if something spills on that bag like a cargo shipment that has leaked on it and know how to recognize it?

There are reasons why you fly the plane and don't load nor unload them.

And for the worker's comp issue, it is not rumor mongering, come on down to CLT and I can introduce you to numerous employees that have gotten claims denied and had to seek legal recourse and still have not gotten their claims covered.

If you get hurt doing a job that you are not hired for nor management force you to do it, your claim will be denied. Workers comp covers you at work while doing your job, not someone else's.

 

[BoeingBoy]

The company is required by law to have workers comp insurance to cover any and all worker injuries.

[post="256369"][/post]​

700UW,

As usual, you have to parse the words....

DCAflyer is correct - the company is required to have workers comp insurance. But notice what was not said - that the company would honor any claim for injuries incurred by an employee while at work.

Jim

 

[Rico]

Bravo for that flight crew, passengers come first.

Something some people around here forgot a long time ago...

 

[700UW]

From the NYS Workers Comp Board:

A claim is paid if the employer or insurance carrier agrees that the injury or illness is work-related. If the employer or insurance carrier disputes the claim, no cash benefits are paid until the Workers' Compensation Law Judge decides who is right. If a worker is not receiving benefits because the employer or insurance carrier is arguing that the injury is not job-related, he/she may be eligible for Disability Benefits in the meantime. Any payments made under the Disability Program, however, will be subtracted from future workers' compensation awards.

Q. Are all disabilities covered under Workers' Compensation Law?
A. No. Only those disabilities that are causally related to an accidental injury "arising out of and in the course of the employment" or to occupational disease, are compensable.

Was the pilot hired to load and unload planes?

 

[Winglet]

Looks to me that you might as well get rid of supervisors and management at U. Doesn't seem like they do anything, are responsible for anything, nor are accountable for anything.

When pilots have to risk themselves doing work they are untrained for, things must really be bad and getting worse.

 

[etops1]

oh put a sock in it 700. its called helping out . we are all in this together. you really are a miserable ####### person!!! you really need to check yourself . there is no room anymore in this industry for people like you. you blame management for there wrong doings here at airways and i give you that . they are to blame for alot of whats going on in this company. but your attitude does not help neither. pax do not care about your contract or my contract. all they care about and should care about is receiving the best service possible plain and simple. and if it requires another employee to pull a bag, clean an a/c , get a wheel chair, make an announcement, go down the jetway to get a stroller for a family. or simply help out so be it!! you need jesus man.

 

[700UW]

My Attitude?

I don't need to check myself, see I know what a collective bargaining agreement is and I know what the scope article means, why don't you take the time to educate yourself so you understand.

I do my job and I do it well and I only do mine. See Contracts are legal and binding documents, see when the contract is violated by someone else doing the work that is not suppose to, the company has to pay out money.

Let the company get rid of F/As and replace you with a coke machine( and I dont want to hear about the FAA) you will be the first person saying my contract says this or what about the company cutting your pay by 50%, see they can't cause it is your contract.

You need to seek help yourself and stop trying to diagnose people over the internet, or calling people retards.

Everyone knows it is a union environment, I don't see rampers getting up during a flight and serving drinks, what makes you think it is right for someone to do their job?

Also like I said, management has the recourse to rectify the incident if it happened.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

OMG that was great exchange I laughed so hard my sides hurt and I had tears running down cheeks. Thanks you guys. I loved the Jesus and retard barbs.

 

[Flufdriver]

700...I really feel bad for you and the way you think, you want to talk about collective agreements. The way I understand it, if your or any group approved it, then it's your obligation to work under it. Is this not true or does your aggreemnt work different. I see, we approved it but I'm NOT going to work under the new terms. This is the mentality that ruins companies, and I don't want to hear about management. If everyone did there job you wouldn't hardly need a suporvisor. Then again, if everyone did there job. After all I beleive they signed off under a new "collective agreement", didn't they. 700, I really don't want anyone on the property to lose there job or get bumped into a postion that they really don't want...but I have to say you are the "Bad Apple" in the group. I couldn't work with you for even an hour listeneing how your getting screwed and how you can't wait to see this all fold. You are the "Negative" spin doctor. I truly think you like hearing yourself on how educated you think you are.....LOL!! Believe it or not, some of us still want to see this thing succeed no matter what you say. It's a joke how you can take a bit of maybe good news and spin it around to make yourself sound knowledgeable and turn it into something terrible. Some people thrive on this tactic...your one of a couple here that simply can't say anything good. Again, if I have to unload a few suitcases to get things rolling, I will!! I really don't think I need a whole lot of "training" to open a door and hand down a few suitcases. Give me a break!!!! And you really showed you ignorance saying to replace the F/A's with Coke machines....your not worth even responding to. I'm glad you have a few "groupies" here that think your the man...but, well I'm NOT even going there! Comments like that really show your colors and I wouldn't be proud of it. All I can say, that goodness there is ONLY a few like you and your attitude!!!

Kudos to the crew...even though they weren't "trained"!!

 

[700UW]

I dont see anywhere in the IAM Fleet Service agreement where is says a Pilot can unload an airplane, in LGA it is Fleet Service covered work.

I don't see in the ALPA agreement where it give your scope language the loading or unloading of an airplane.

See you never worked with me nor do you know me, go ask any of my supervisors and you will hear nothing but glowing reports.

And don't worry, I could not work with a company suck up and someone who does not support organized labor.

You would not have what you have if it was not for the battles fought for by union members before us.

If the FAA did not require a F/A, trust me the company would replace them with a coke machine.

You have no idea what it means to be a union member, not a member of a union.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

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You guys got to stop I am dieing over here.

 

[jack mama]

and its employees like 700UW who are to blame for 2 trips to CH 11.

way to go 700UW!!!!

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

and its employees like 700UW who are to blame for 2 trips to CH 11.

way to go 700UW!!!!

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Dogpile Dogpile

 

[700UW]

I am to blame?

That is the most assinine statement I have ever seen.

Yep it is all my fault oil is at record prices and Southwest has taken on US. And let me take credit for pissing away three years of employee concessions too.

If you believe what you posted you are the most naive person on the board.