Joint contract for IAM/TWU

[1AA]

The company has the similar language in the MOU with the TWU. They want a JCBA to achieve the synergies, ie cost savings.

They already have that with the two best contracts in the airlines only a company can love.
Next stop....2017.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

The company has the similar language in the MOU with the TWU.

They want a JCBA to achieve the synergies, ie cost savings.

So now they have both Unions with binding documents stating they will file. Again why was this so important for the company? Was it interfering with integration plans?

Looks as if the IAM had The company in a position to negotiate a better deal closer to the industry standard and decided to sell the members out!

 

[2ndGENAMT]

But hey WeAA.
 
All the on the floor Labor Relations Experts say they wont have a JCBA until 2017.
 
Amazing how many practice law, accounting, contract negotiations from the airport, breakrooms, hangars, etc....

What is this? Sarcasm?
The observations of any negotiations in the past decade points to a lengthy process, with cooperation from everyone it will take three years just to hash out the non monetary articles.

Show us a speedy JCBA negotiation, just one..

 

[TWU informer]

This is all real simple to understand.
The 1 year bar for another AMFA representational dispute filing is about to expire in August.
 
Beginning negotiations and filing the single carrier application is a new twist on the same old game to prevent AMFA from getting an election to oust the pathetic industrial union from the property.
 
The industrial unions never have enough Political Influence to change Bankruptcy Laws. stop Right-to-Work Laws, restrict foriegn outsourcing of your work, or prevent changes in Workmans Comp laws, alas though, they do have enough Political Influence to prevent you the member from choosing your representation. What is real sad, is they use your own hard earned paycheck/dues to pay for the influence to use against you. Wow!

 

[2ndGENAMT]

They already have that with the two best contracts in the airlines only a company can love.
Next stop....2017.

You see this 700? This is Truth!!!

 

[iluvaa]

This all real simple.
The 1 year bar for another AMFA representational dispute filing is about to expire in August.
 
Beginning negotiations and filing the single carrier application is a new twist on the same old game to prevent AMFA from getting an election to oust the pathetic industrial union from the property.
 
The industrial unions never have enough Political Influence to change Bankruptcy Laws. stop Right-to-Work Laws, restrict foriegn outsourcing of your work, or prevent changes in Workmans Comp laws, alas though, they do have enough Political Influence to prevent you the member from choosing your representation. What is real sad, is they use your paycheck/dues to pay for the influence to use against you. Wow!

I was thinking the same thing when I saw that.

 

[swamt]

This is all real simple to understand.
The 1 year bar for another AMFA representational dispute filing is about to expire in August.
 
Beginning negotiations and filing the single carrier application is a new twist on the same old game to prevent AMFA from getting an election to oust the pathetic industrial union from the property.
 
The industrial unions never have enough Political Influence to change Bankruptcy Laws. stop Right-to-Work Laws, restrict foriegn outsourcing of your work, or prevent changes in Workmans Comp laws, alas though, they do have enough Political Influence to prevent you the member from choosing your representation. What is real sad, is they use your own hard earned paycheck/dues to pay for the influence to use against you. Wow!

Exactly, couldn't be more correct...

 

[Duke787]

This Is what UAL has now and they're in negotiations, from a UAL thread. Kind of makes the IAM post BK contract look sad.


20+ year mechanic line dayshift makes right around $36.92
 
We get 12 sick days a year @ 75% pay the first week 100% thereafter
 
Vacation we get 5 weeks after 19 years - 6 weeks after 24 years - 7 weeks after 29 years
 
We currently get 8 holidays

 

[blue collar]

I for one hope you guys do get mid 40s in your JCBA- I was hoping for more out of the IAM newly ratified CBA, but it wasn't mine to vote on. The more you guys make, the more we all make.

 

[FWAAA]

This is all real simple to understand.
The 1 year bar for another AMFA representational dispute filing is about to expire in August.
 
Beginning negotiations and filing the single carrier application is a new twist on the same old game to prevent AMFA from getting an election to oust the pathetic industrial union from the property.
 
The industrial unions never have enough Political Influence to change Bankruptcy Laws. stop Right-to-Work Laws, restrict foriegn outsourcing of your work, or prevent changes in Workmans Comp laws, alas though, they do have enough Political Influence to prevent you the member from choosing your representation. What is real sad, is they use your own hard earned paycheck/dues to pay for the influence to use against you. Wow!

Well said.   For many years,  the TWU has chosen to play big-shot lobbyist with the politicians in a futile attempt to influence policy instead of focus on improving your wages and benefits.   Recall how quickly the TWU threw its support behind the Occupy movement instead of representing you and your fellow mechanics.   You recently posted about the liberal political bent of the TWU leadership and its lack of results.   They're upset about Citizens United and Hobby Lobby and easy access to abortions, etc.   The list goes on and on.     Just recently, Bob Owens was ranting about his disagreements with the US Supreme Court:
 

In the un-natural world of corporate person-hood its understandable and probably deliberate that most of us get confused.
 
American Airlines, a legal person, was owned by AMR,(does that in effect make AA, a legal person, a slave of AMR?)  a corporate entity spawned from itself. AMR changed its name and it now owns both American Airlines and all the assets and liabilities (contracts)of what ever owned USAIRways. It has been stated that the newly named former AMR, which is being run by the management team from the USAIRways corporation, intends to merge the two airlines its owns and operate them as a single carrier. Renegotiating the contracts is a part of that process. At UAL/CAL they have been in the same process for over three years now. Corporations can own corporations, they can even spawn a corporation to own itself, they can fund political campaigns and have the same rights of free speech, while they can not actually physically cast a ballott they can channell their huge resourses to ensure that votes go the way they want them to. They can  own, sue, sell enter into contracts etc like Human beings can, but they also posses abilities that no human person has, they can not be drafted, they can break any law and not be imprisoned, they have an unlimited life span and as mentioned earlier, unlike any "real person", they can do what God did, create a whole other person from a portion of an existing one !
 
As the rights of corporations continues to expand, to the diminishing rights of real 'people',  (now they also have the right to impose their 'religious" beliefs on their workers-I wonder what denomination the new AA is? ) expect things to continue to be more and more confusing, and that's the way its intended to be, hopefully people get frustrated  and go back to watching the latest reality TV show or follow whats really important such as which baseball team is in first place or who has the most RBI's.  

 
I'm optimistic that once AMFA is voted in and the TWU/Alliance abortion is voted out, the AA AMFA leadership can focus on improving wages and benefits (and other relevant items like working conditions/safety, etc) instead of spending money on liberal causes.   Not because I disagree with all the liberal causes, but because the politics don't belong in a mechanics' union.   AA's mechanics have a few things in common, but political beliefs are an area where there is no consensus.   

 

[700UW]

http://youtu.be/mlUFyTnBtlE

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Thanks for the video 700UW. Detroit is another typical SOCIALIST FAILURE. Keep voting Democrat. Keep letting Democrats buy those votes with taxpayer money. 
 
http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/michaelschaus/2014/07/08/detroit-retirees-asked-to-pay-for-decades-of-democrat-government-n1859846/page/full
 
Democrats, flushing America down the toilet one city at a time.