JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Albert]

I think the peanut chuckers at Wrigley Field are organized by the IAM and they have no height requirement as long as you have Popeye arms?

“HOT NUTS”

Weez he's been at this for what 30 years, clearly the definition of insanity. It sucks losing your hair but it must really suck being short

 

[WeAAsles]

Weez he's been at this for what 30 years, clearly the definition of insanity. It sucks losing your hair but it must really suck being short

Tim asked me to be a part of his next video cause he’s tired of doing these things all by himself. He said he’s lonely. How could I say no. I hope everyone enjoys it.

 

[737823]

The iam wont man up but many are unfortunately wanting to get rid of the Ass in ord. Key people are apparently talking amongst the masses and sadly it may be only a matter of time before it happens.we should stick with the association, at this time.

Tim,
With the IAM clearly pivoting to a low wage, low benefit quantity of members (dues) versus quality of jobs what structural changes can we expect?

My question is what is the basis for UGE and McGee not having an associated DL? Who services the membership, oversees grievances, etc? I will say that I’ve always found the IAMs three tiered structure a silly waste of resources and bureaucracy.

But it is clear they’re pivoting towards focusing the organization on catering to low wage outfits both within the airlines and beyond in manufacturing, Uber drivers, and the broader “Gig economy”.

Josh

 

[Albert]

Tim asked me to be a part of his next video cause he’s tired of doing these things all by himself. He said he’s lonely. How could I say no. I hope everyone enjoys it.

I was sitting in my backyard one summer day having a beer and I noticed a carpenter ant on a flower pot he was just walking on top of the rim going around the top of the pot circling and circling wasn't getting anywhere. I guess Tim goes by the theory if you keep going east long enough it becomes west.But if he enjoys it God bless

 

[robbedagain]

josh beco of the unions currently AA is highest paid of the top 3 carriers the biggie question is what kind of jcba will come out of it youre extremely anti union and anti aa and us not sure why youre so fascinated by it if you hate aa and iam so much fly dl or ual

 

[conehead777]

Gary most definitely put Parker on the spot. Parker did dance, but I am anxious to see if Parker follows up on more meetings. His excuse for the lack of meetings seems to be they are unproductive. That tells me AA is the one who is lying about not wanting to meet. Mr Isom is indeed a liar.

I think a lot has to do with Gerry class and him and skd if that’s it the company needs to let Gerry glass go and get a contract done lmho

 

[swamt]

The iam wont man up but many are unfortunately wanting to get rid of the Ass in ord. Key people are apparently talking amongst the masses and sadly it may be only a matter of time before it happens.we should stick with the association, at this time.

No, you should not stick with this BS asso. Tim and you know it. It will be too late once you guys get your T/A. Run the card drive now, it will be less pain in the long run and you know this.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim,
With the IAM clearly pivoting to a low wage, low benefit quantity of members (dues) versus quality of jobs what structural changes can we expect?

My question is what is the basis for UGE and McGee not having an associated DL? Who services the membership, oversees grievances, etc? I will say that I’ve always found the IAMs three tiered structure a silly waste of resources and bureaucracy.

But it is clear they’re pivoting towards focusing the organization on catering to low wage outfits both within the airlines and beyond in manufacturing, Uber drivers, and the broader “Gig economy”.

Josh

It's sad but we don't have any District leaders who want to put their $172,000 on the line. Having Sito and Reagon, two GL peeps, as our only bargainers violates our bylaws. The negotiation committee do not bargain. Period. They stay down the hall and get everything second hand. Hopefully, this changes in April. Sito will be removed, then turned over to the FBI after we do an internal investigation of the Delta forgeries and we get evidence.

Negotiations will be turned over to the District. As IP, I don't believe the GL should be involved in any negotiations, and nobody who doesn't come underneath that particular contract. So, for the Association, that means a District Officer will be in charge of negotiations, as the bylaws stipulate. We already scheduled a June special convention which will propose that any chief negotiator has to be from the particular contract he/she is negotiating. This is one of my main things on my platform. Means that we would have to get the GL resources to a LUS district officer. They know their situation better than the GL.

McGee and UGE, we will have to unpack and figure out but both contracts are a cancer. LOA in the UA agreement gives up all work, i.e., every single job at United, if management so chooses, so it's a mess, currently.

 

[Tim Nelson]

No, you should not stick with this BS asso. Tim and you know it. It will be too late once you guys get your T/A. Run the card drive now, it will be less pain in the long run and you know this.

Hopefully, it all can all be cleaned up in April. Getting Sito out of there and making sure the District leads in negotiations. We will not be giving up anything. Period. I will be able to tell you 100% that the LUS will NEVER sign an agreement that gives up our health care. Hopefully, the TWU will continue to understand, otherwise, we will do whatever we have to do to protect the interest of our IAM members.

 

[WeAAsles]

It's sad but we don't have any District leaders who want to put their $172,000 on the line. Having Sito and Reagon, two GL peeps, as our only bargainers violates our bylaws. The negotiation committee do not bargain. Period. They stay down the hall and get everything second hand. Hopefully, this changes in April. Sito will be removed, then turned over to the FBI after we do an internal investigation of the Delta forgeries and we get evidence.

Negotiations will be turned over to the District. As IP, I don't believe the GL should be involved in any negotiations, and nobody who doesn't come underneath that particular contract. So, for the Association, that means a District Officer will be in charge of negotiations, as the bylaws stipulate. We already scheduled a June special convention which will propose that any chief negotiator has to be from the particular contract he/she is negotiating. This is one of my main things on my platform. Means that we would have to get the GL resources to a LUS district officer. They know their situation better than the GL.

McGee and UGE, we will have to unpack and figure out but both contracts are a cancer. LOA in the UA agreement gives up all work, i.e., every single job at United, if management so chooses, so it's a mess, currently.

Timmy I want you to read that last line on the LOA# 9 and tell me if you understand it? Now I guess if the only way you feel you can win is to spread fear and lies over to the UAL side of the fence to garner their votes, that’s your prerogative. But didn’t you once attend a Seminary College or something? What did they teach you there?

 

[WeAAsles]

Hopefully, it all can all be cleaned up in April. Getting Sito out of there and making sure the District leads in negotiations. We will not be giving up anything. Period. I will be able to tell you 100% that the LUS will NEVER sign an agreement that gives up our health care. Hopefully, the TWU will continue to understand, otherwise, we will do whatever we have to do to protect the interest of our IAM members.

Didn’t you claim for an absolute fact that this was done? WTF happened Timmy? Why did you lie to us?

Timmy, Timmy, Timmy. So sad.

 

[737823]

Tim,
Didn’t the GL get involved with Boeing negotiations on numerous occasions? The December 2013 GL-sanctioned revote which narrowly passed when conducted over a scheduled plant closing while many were away from SEA area for vacation comes to mind. Was the GL involved at Lockheed Martin and Caterpillar? I recall seeing Machinist news segments showing GL start at the LMT negotiations circa 2011.

Josh

 

[Insatiable]

I think what sums it up is this: with the AGC there is plenty of BS that is from a BM with the PU that is spread over the IAM and TWU. Now the LOA for the LUS and LAA is not good for the the health care for the GL to have for the LUS and LAA members. This CB could not be done ASAP and is there fore DOA!

 

[Insatiable]

Airline mechanics protest outside American’s Fort Worth headquarters

FORT WORTH


More than 400 workers blew whistles and shouted slogans during a protest outside American Airlines’ corporate headquarters Thursday.

Members of Transport Workers Union Local 513 are protesting the slow pace of negotiations with American over a new contract. The union, which represents about 4,000 mechanics and other fleet service workers, hasn’t had a new contract since the company emerged from bankruptcy in 2013. Not to everyones surprise was the fact that the IAM was not anywhere to be found to support the TWU during this protest. Many have speculated that the IAM is in fact in bed with the company during the slow paced negotiations.

“American Airlines is outsourcing a lot of its work to third-party vendors who have high turnover and pay lower wages,” said spokesman Brian Parker.

 

[swamt]

Hopefully, it all can all be cleaned up in April. Getting Sito out of there and making sure the District leads in negotiations. We will not be giving up anything. Period. I will be able to tell you 100% that the LUS will NEVER sign an agreement that gives up our health care. Hopefully, the TWU will continue to understand, otherwise, we will do whatever we have to do to protect the interest of our IAM members.

I would hope so. The IAM needs to fight hard for the medical. Matter fact they should be fighting hard for the TWU'ers to get into the LUS medical in a JCBA. However with that said, and after your statement about LUS will never sign an agreement that gives up your current health care. CB has already stated that the medical is changing. None of the nego's has flat out said that they are fighting full force to keep the current medical of the IAM'ers and some here would like to know why that is? Tell the membership (TWU) what type of medical package you guys are trying to nego into contract. What is wrong with that? Just be glad the unions are not trying to force you guys into a medical program that is 100% operated and controlled by the union like they are over at UPS. Tim, why is it everyone is evr so quiet on the TWU side, but as CB has stated the IAM is aware of everything being nego at the table. What is up with the TWU not informing their membership? Could this be why the IAM side is being so quiet? Could it be why they are not attending nor supporting the info picketing against the company? I personally think something stinks here big time for the TWU'ers and they won't find out until T/A day and that's when the chaotic out of control membership will get the big picture, by then it will be too late to change the union, that's why I say it needs to be done now. if you guys wait you will be sorry you waited.