JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[WeAAsles]

the unions finest times, when the coal miners worked 2 miles underground for hours on in. then coming home to a company home with company food bought at the company store.
The auto worker working the assembly line for hours and hours.

those people did not have a whole lot of choice where they worked or where they lived.
I'm working for a company that provides me and my family a real decent living. A good wage and working contition. yea is gets hot and freezing cold sometimes but beats working in a office or flipping burgers ( not that there is anything wrong in doing that but not for me) been there done it.
so yeah we have union that should work with the company so we can keep a fair wage work environment.
Really do we have it that bad!
sorry for the long rant

The Company also needs to work with the Unions. Sorry but thanks to the RLA it is a somewhat symbiotic relationship. When the Company gets a little more serious on their full comprehensive proposals instead of trying to decimate SCOPE, maybe the Protests will stop?

And I don't speak for all of course but no, I do not think I have it that bad.

 

[avi]

The Company also needs to work with the Unions. Sorry but thanks to the RLA it is a somewhat symbiotic relationship. When the Company gets a little more serious on their full comprehensive proposals instead of trying to decimate SCOPE, maybe the Protests will stop?

And I don't speak for all of course but no, I do not think I have it that bad.

glad to here that
how do we even know what the company proposal is when the union said we don't need to know what is going on until we say so.....that I have a problem with, and gossip & rumors from the union and the company. put it down on paper with a disclaimer if need be.

 

[WeAAsles]

glad to here that
how do we even know what the company proposal is when the union said we don't need to know what is going on until we say so.....that I have a problem with, and gossip & rumors from the union and the company. put it down on paper with a disclaimer if need be.

Well if you really want us to know what you offered why don't you just release it? We're not in Section 6 and you have plenty of avenues at your disposal to submit information directly to your employees bypassing those Negotiators if it's them who are being unreasonable.

And wow everyone on the Employee bus tonight was talking about Picketing. I didn't even have to open my mouth for a change. Nice.

 

[avi]

Well if you really want us to know what you offered why don't you just release it? We're not in Section 6 and you have plenty of avenues at your disposal to submit information directly to your employees bypassing those Negotiators if it's them who are being unreasonable.

And wow everyone on the Employee bus tonight was talking about Picketing. I didn't even have to open my mouth for a change. Nice.

who knows what the company offered our union doesn't tell us?

 

[WeAAsles]

who knows what the company offered our union doesn't tell us?

First pass on the Comprehensive proposal I would expect it to be pretty severely sub par myself.

Do you play Chess avi? I used to teach Chess at my Library back in Queens.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I didn't even have to open my mouth for a change. Nice.

You didn't have to but I bet you did anyway.

 

[WeAAsles]

You didn't have to but I bet you did anyway.

Hey can you share your story with all of us again how you were ok with what happened to you here at AA and how your life is so much better now.

I always enjoy reading it for a good laugh.

 

[robbedagain]

who knows what the company offered our union doesn't tell us?

you can bet unless your in mgmt. it was a subpar pos deal typical J.G. thing in times of profits huge profits the employees need to get everything back period

 

[avi]

First pass on the Comprehensive proposal I would expect it to be pretty severely sub par myself.

Do you play Chess avi? I used to teach Chess at my Library back in Queens.

yes I due been years

 

[avi]

yes I due been years

nobodies going to put their best foot forward first.....its called the dance

 

[Jester]

so yeah we have union that should work with the company so we can keep a fair wage work environment. Really do we have it that bad!

You have so identified with your PHX Management abusers that you don't find the overall hostile environment to be unreasonable.

You are being micro-managed, living under the daily threat of being placed on a performance level, spied upon by Managers who would even go so far as to perch themselves on top of a nearby parking garage with a set of binoculars on a tripod to identify people not following the GOM, and not to mention the slew of "brothers" who would report you for any violation in order to curry favor with Management.

And now it is as if you plead, "Can't we all just get along with the Company?" Maybe you should google "Stockholm Syndrome" to see what you have become?

 

[avi]

whoa cowboy what is with all the hostility we are on the same side . I know ramp has females so should it not be brothers and sisters. just saying. so chill out we well get thru this, time will tell .....peace out

 

[psa8979]

To ALL , avi like so many like him are called Fencesitters . Company side when it benefits them . Union side when their "tits in a ringer ". To many of our Lead/Chief Members fall into this syndrome.
My bet is the Company wants to use the LUV model of Leadership ??? Your either Company or dues paying Rank/File . Our AAL IBT/CWA Brothers/Sisters under their CBA are working under those rules today. Fish On !

 

[avi]

you do know that you are the company in part

 

[WeAAsles]

nobodies going to put their best foot forward first.....its called the dance

I understand that. But the two dancers who get on that floor and wow the Judges usually win the trophy.

(Meaning less long term lingering animosity from the Airlines employees)