JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Kev3188]

Weird also how it seems at least again to me like the IAM wants to own everything?

They did the same thing with 10 hr. rest for F/A's.

 

[Koolcat]

The process has slowed. One thing significant is the unexpected success of my argument to get a rerun election. Thus, i believe, and i admit this may be biased, that our lus leaders were on the verge of collapsing our health insurance, knowing they were in office for 4 years. So i dont think its unexpected that lus bosses are more cautious with that trigger. In fact i think its the exact sorta thing i would expect, given an election around the corner.

Nobody cares about your IAM election

 

[WeAAsles]

They did the same thing with 10 hr. rest for F/A's.

I hope you're getting that one confused with this one where they claimed to be the "only" Union fighting to protect CSA. (Not true)

http://iam141.org/victory-for-airline-customer-service-agents-and-the-iam/

CWA.

https://cwa-union.org/news/passenger-service-agents-lobby-congress-strengthen-assault-protections

 

[AANOTOK]

And I understand how people want and need to focus or harp on the past. But to me American Airlines as I knew it went out of business on December 9, 2013. Even though the new Company I work for carries the old name, I don't really feel like it's the same. It's sort of like a ghost image of the old bird.

The same could be said about the TWU since I started in '83, only it has been going out of business for a lot longer. So I guess the answer was to merge (Association), and exactly how is that working out for the members of TWU.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Nobody cares about your IAM election

Im sure but you guys keep asking why negotiations slowed down after they said they would expedite. A funny thing happened along the way. You might not care, but they do cuz its their livlihood. No way in hell we lose our lus health care prior to an election unless the union bosses want to risk more votes.

 

[WeAAsles]

The same could be said about the TWU since I started in '83, only it has been going out of business for a lot longer. So I guess the answer was to merge (Association), and exactly how is that working out for the members of TWU.

If you're saying that that's the direction you still see the TWU heading in, you haven't been paying attention. And the TWU hasn't "merged" with anyone my friend.

BTW check this update out. All three of these hirings came from outside the TWU and seem highly qualified for the jobs.

 

[WeAAsles]

Im sure but you guys keep asking why negotiations slowed down after they said they would expedite. A funny thing happened along the way. You might not care, but they do cuz its their livlihood. No way in hell we lose our lus health care prior to an election unless the union bosses want to risk more votes.

So little old you once again claim to be the bad cog in the wheel, the fly in the ointment, the smell in the basement, the greased monkey.

Nah. You're not.

 

[Tim Nelson]

So little old you once again claim to be the bad cog in the wheel, the fly in the ointment, the smell in the basement, the greased monkey.

Nah. You're not.

Im much more civilized. I have to be since im goin to have to work till Im 80.

 

[WeAAsles]

Hmmm? ----- ?

 

[WeAAsles]

Im much more civilized. I have to be since im goin to have to work till Im 80.

No you said around 70. You're 55 and in a conversation on here you said you had 15 years to go.

55 + 15 = 70

 

[Tim Nelson]

No you said around 70. You're 55 and in a conversation on here you said you had 15 years to go.

55 + 15 = 70

My iam pension will get whacked soon but a second cut will have to come in 6 years. Only those who are over 80 cant be cut. Im thinkin about it. I cut out some sugars.

 

[WeAAsles]

My iam pension will get whacked soon but a second cut will have to come in 6 years. Only those who are over 80 cant be cut. Im thinkin about it. I cut out some sugars.

Tim you live in a crash pad. You can't be telling me that you aren't maxing out your 401k yearly? C'mon man seriously. You wear that peach shirt all the time and have very little clothing in that basket of yours. Take a chill pill on that Pension bogeyman of yours.

Maybe need to start avoiding those expensive wine bars?

 

[NYer]

One good start would be to insist that they stay at the table 7 days a week until completed.

Good luck with that.

 

[NYer]

Who is on the current TWU Executive Committee in negotiations?

 

[ograc]

The process has slowed. One thing significant is the unexpected success of my argument to get a rerun election. Thus, i believe, and i admit this may be biased, that our lus leaders were on the verge of collapsing our health insurance, knowing they were in office for 4 years. So i dont think its unexpected that lus bosses are more cautious with that trigger. In fact i think its the exact sorta thing i would expect, given an election around the corner.

Politics aside; I would say it is not wise, for our TWU Brothers and Sisters, to set the bar at only gaining parity with the IAM members, as the goal in JCBA negotiations. A rather low expectation, given the current circumstances and financial conditions of the industry and AA. We have favorable conditions to achieve an industry leading contract. Hopefully, the opportunity is not wasted.