JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[WeAAsles]

WeAAsles,

Not one TWU guy has come to me or anybody else that I know of, and said why don't we do this or that. We were in negotiations 3 years ago and know this style the Company uses. We know a comprehensive proposal is coming in the near future.

P. Rez

Rez maybe it is and maybe it's not? How long do we (The members) sit on our hands waiting for it to come and or hoping it will be acceptable?

I'm personally glad to see the members get to at least relieve a little pressure finally. And Rez this doesn't have to be a big complication (Even with the permits involved) You guys know each other. Just call and say you want to join in whenever and wherever, and wear an IAM shirt and hat.

 

[737823]

Rez maybe it is and maybe it's not? How long do we (The members) sit on our hands waiting for it to come and or hoping it will be acceptable?

I'm personally glad to see the members get to at least relieve a little pressure finally. And Rez this doesn't have to be a big complication (Even with the permits involved) You guys know each other. Just call and say you want to join in whenever and wherever, and wear an IAM shirt and hat.

WeAA,
Didn't the IAM not get the proper permits to picket at CLT/PHL the last go around for the summer 2014 standalone agreement?

At least the TWU is able to get a simple picket right.

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

WeAA,
Didn't the IAM not get the proper permits to picket at CLT/PHL the last go around for the summer 2014 standalone agreement?

At least the TWU is able to get a simple picket right.

Josh

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see a picket happen at CLT/PHL/PHX/etc.

C'mon IAM let's see what you're made of.

Dave.

 

[737823]

No WeAA DFW/LAX/MIA/JFK/LGA make more sense since people will actually see them according to Bob:

Guess that thr picket line in high visability charlotte didn't make national headlines. Whats wrong with setting up pickets in New York or DCA where somebody might actuslly see them? Somebody might see them?

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

No WeAA DFW/LAX/MIA/JFK/LGA make more sense since people will actually see them according to Bob:



Josh

I want to see our partners the IAM in action. (The other places are already covered)

 

[737823]

On a serious note what are the implications of Artice 1C regarding the 17 LAA stations. Aren't they only protected through the amendable date of the stand alone AA TWU fleet agreement? Since the agreement came out a number of the stations have seen dramatic shifts following the S80 phase out both to RJs on the low end and less frequency on larger A321/738 equipment. Has the company made any commitment regarding stations that are tinkering the threshold (ATL, AUS, SAT, STL)

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

On a serious note what are the implications of Artice 1C regarding the 17 LAA stations. Aren't they only protected through the amendable date of the stand alone AA TWU fleet agreement? Since the agreement came out a number of the stations have seen dramatic shifts following the S80 phase out both to RJs on the low end and less frequency on larger A321/738 equipment. Has the company made any commitment regarding stations that are tinkering the threshold (ATL, AUS, SAT, STL)

Josh

As far as I know (Josh) those stations since the merger are all above the flight threshold that could be triggered to close? (Question mark) SJU could have some problems?

I don't see (no way) the Company closing any stations or making any moves until we get all the contracts out of the way anyway. Wouldn't make good/smart business sense.

 

[lax]

The IAM. Or maybe specifically IAM Districts 141 and 142 have shown by their actions so far, zero emphasis or motivation to apply any pressure against AA Management to even try to come to a deal.

It does seem like it's being completely left up to the TWU side of this "Association" to really want to reach JCBA's showing that maybe the IAM side is content (fine and dandy) with what they currently have and dragging this out as long as necessary to keep/get what "THEY" want out of these talks?

The perceptions just aren't telling me anything different that I can see?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/transportworkersunion/sets/72157678788087910

hallelujah weasel finally sees what I've been saying for over 2 yrs ad nauseam lol. the iam does not represent the aaers. they are there solely to be a "fly in the ointment" and to represent 20% of the ramp & m&r workforce. how the twu allowed this is beyond me. i don't see a contract coming until there's threats of layoffs in iam stations....ASSociation= holding aaers hostage!!!

 

[lax]

WeAAsles,

Not one TWU guy has come to me or anybody else that I know of, and said why don't we do this or that. We were in negotiations 3 years ago and know this style the Company uses. We know a comprehensive proposal is coming in the near future.

P. Rez

so fortunate for your leadership. another shining example!🙁

 

[Rogallo]

HAD ENOUGH YET?

 

[P. REZ]

so fortunate for your leadership. another shining example!🙁

lax,

I am leading, IAM peeps are ok with the progress, if TWU peeps were ready to picket, they could have communicated that fact. What am I supposed to be, a mind reader? Lol.

P. Rez

 

[Traymark]

Prez
Weak sauce dude.
You read these forums, you know how pissed we are and have been and you say , it's complicated, and we are making progress while the membership has called bs continually.

I've made numerous references how bad we are being played and get numerous "agrees" . To try and say you are now only hearing about it is nothing more than BS.

 

[Traymark]

It's long past the time that the leadership at the very top of both unions made a unified call out of Parker, and had the the pilots and FA's unions join us as well.

That's how it used to work.

 

[P. REZ]

Prez
Weak sauce dude.
You read these forums, you know how pissed we are and have been and you say , it's complicated, and we are making progress while the membership has called bs continually.

I've made numerous references how bad we are being played and get numerous "agrees" . To try and say you are now only hearing about it is nothing more than BS.

Traymark,

I've heard some of you on this site and heard from TWU guys in negotiations some frustrations, but not one asked for a meeting of the minds to discuss any plans for anything. I saw on this site about picketing, take that to the bank, reality.

P. Rez

 

[WeAAsles]

Brothers and Sisters,

It's become painfully clear that the company is in no hurry whatsoever to reach a tentative agreement that's fair and equitable to our membership. We've been working under a contract forced upon us in bankruptcy, and have been strung along in contract negotiations for a year and a half. All that and the company is still passing concessionary articles back to our negotiating committee. That's especially concerning since we're just now about to start negotiating on the most important and economical articles such as scope, compensation, benefits, holidays, etc...

It's also become very evident that the more AA makes, the more AA takes!

The divide between the executive level compensation and benefits, and our compensation and benefits grows more each passing day.

Had our negotiating team not held firm and agreed to accept concessionary articles, we could have had a tentative agreement months ago, but I can assure you it would have been far short of the "industry leading contract" that we've been promised. I applaud our negotiating team for not accepting the company's concessionary articles thus far!

Aside from the TWU, every workgroup on the property has post- bankruptcy contracts, with additional gains since the dates of signing those contracts. That includes our association counterparts of the IAM.

As we move into the last critical articles in negotiations, our negotiating team is now asking for our help. We need to send a clear and concise message to the company, and to our passengers, that it's well past time that our sacrifices be recognized.

We've gotten American Airlines to number one amongst their industry peers, now it's time they get us to number one amongst our industry peers as well.

With all that said, our negotiating team is now asking for our help. Starting in DFW on July 26th, 2017, we will kick off a system-wide campaign to expose the company's greed, and show our worth. Without the collective voice of the membership, our negotiating team is simply a few guys sitting at a table making arguments on our behalf. It's now our turn to get in the game!

We deserve the Industry's Best and Nothing Less!

Fraternally,

Brian Parker
Strategic Action Coordinator
TWU Local 513